The Worst of the Best Podcast

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well I'm ready to go whenever you're ready to go absolutely welcome to the worst of the
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best podcast you wanted the best well they didn't freaking make it so here's
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what you get from Canada and Florida Ryan and Drew
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welcome to the worst of the best podcast I am your host and with me today I think
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you're the top returning guests that isn't part of the original well my brother you hold the title for most
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returning guests Drew how you doing I am very very good Ryan it is a beautiful
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December H afternoon here in in Florida we reached an absolutely chilly low of
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about 55 yesterday I couldn't believe it so we're just rolling with the punches down here I'm set to make a big holiday
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trip so I'm glad we could squeeze this in beforehand do you have to do any holiday traveling wait I want to get
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back to your temperature so you said it was it was a chilly 55 degrees Fahrenheit it was a very chilly I I
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would actually called a very chilly 55 degrees F okay so for our Canadian
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listeners that's about 13° C that's like a early spring morning right now -6 C
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that's 3° Fahrenheit it sounds so dirty when you say it like that -16 Cel I
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wouldn't know what to do with that well we did have a winter Vortex come through as they say and it's supposed to go up
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to at least 5° next week for the Christmas break or Christmas week so 5 Dees is a nice balmy 41 Fahrenheit for
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you very good very good so some of the snow will melt it will create an absolute mess you know you'll deal with
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that for the remainder of the winter I suppose yeah oh it will get colder and just in the nick of time our family will
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be flying for those who care or listen who know me personally on a personal level F and I have we sold our house
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here in Quebec and we are flying back to Victoria British Columbia suburb or a little town called Suk just north of
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Victoria on Vancouver Island so if you want to come uh get me and get mad at me for all my past episodes regarding some
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of my worst picks that's where I'll be starting in February I can't wait to go back to really the most moderate and
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best climate in Canada is actually on that island in Canada so we paid an
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island in Canada well it's actually officially an island it's called Vancouver Island not the city of Vancouver this Vancouver the city is
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like on the mainland but there is a island that looks like a cucumber just west of the Mainland you would recognize
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it if you saw it like oh that's it and we're on the southern tip of that Island right above Seattle on a map oh okay so
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you're going to be way over there in the in the Pacific time zone that is is going to make our NeverEnding
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conversation about which time zone each of us are in it's going to make it a little more relevant I think you know
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it's funny for a listeners what Drew is referring to is every time I talk to him I don't know what's wrong with me I always ask him what time zone are you in
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I know you're in Florida but the reason why I asked I think there's two time zones in Florida you are right uh the
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panhandle of Florida which for all intents and purposes we should refer to as South Alabama let's be clear okay the
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panhandle of Florida is different time Zone I don't know why they did that I think most of the reasonable people in
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Florida would vote to remove that issue if we ever got the chance I think most
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reasonable people would also eliminate the issue of the time change twice a year okay you guys do that in Canada too
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oh yeah yeah of course come on I really we we could have a lot of these
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conversations well that that would get very confusing because if I said I'm in the Eastern Time Zone but I'm hour
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behind you that would get very confusing do you know that there's a state in the United States that does not observe the
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daylight yeah they're probably the same provinces that do the same in that same like it's that longitude area so I would
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imagine it's I think it's skatan maybe because I I don't know the Prairie States like what their time zones but
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central time and that never changes I I believe it's Indiana that just does not do that changing nonsense yes yes join
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us on our next episode where we give the worst of the best time zones I'm going with Pacific that's what I'm going for
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the a front runner yeah yeah I'm calling it a front runner oh again we disagree the worst is definitely East Coast because
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what I love about the West Coast time zone is like we watch sports at 4:00 in the afternoon we can watch the late
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games at 7:00 in the evening it's great for sports watching alone I watch late shows like I used to watch like David
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Letterman stuff back in the day so I used to watch David Letterman at 8:30 at night it was nice what do you do
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afterwards that's always been my question go to sleep you go to sleep you go to sleep at 9:00 look would you stop
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at go to bed at 10 10:30 like a normal adult all right here we go we are now doing our Stone Temple Pilots part two
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there sophomore effort the album is called Purple this is a favorite of both of ours Stone Temple Pilots is one of
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our favorite bands like our show states where the worst of the best what we do is we don't pick the best the world
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picks that for us and fans around the world that are Stone Temple pile fans would I would imagine most of them would
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argue that purple is probably their Peak album and I'm going to say for me my
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opinion is this is the best album theyve ever ever made other great albums other great songs but this one I don't think
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was ever toed you remind me quite often during our discussions don't reveal which one you think is the worst are we
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allowed to to talk about things that we consider the best always okay always well yes then I agree with you purple is
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the best Zone Temple Pilots album yeah it is Rel listenable at any point during
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my life I haven't outgrown it I haven't uh drifted away from it in terms of my music interests it's not exactly what
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you hear on the radio right now for people of a certain age that grew up with a certain sort of Music being out
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there uh in the pop culture this is absolutely one of the best rock albums of its generation yeah we could say rock
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now without any kind of hesitation there there is a couple songs we'll get to them that sound a little bit still from
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that uh cousin of grunge but they have really separate themselves with this album Heavy chords incredible solos
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incredible chorus harmonies uh songs that build up and cresendo jam sessions
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at the end of songs it's just a rock album at the end of the day this is an incredible Rock album Heavy dirty I love
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it so much I've listened to it in preparation for this episode and I just kept listening to it like I got to listen to it one more time you know I
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got to make sure I know what I'm getting into here and I I just I forgot in a weird way you know time goes on I mean
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you just I I don't listen to the Same album every day for 25 years so I haven't listened to this like the way I am now almost probably over a decade I'm
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just straight on listening cuz I listen to it at nauseum and rightfully so back when I was a teenager when this came out
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remind me the year '94 it was released on June 7th in 1994 yeah I was 18 when
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it came out oh that is a great just an absolute great Coming of Age year and
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you're striking out on your own both in your musical tastes and in your real life I was 10 I was 10 when this album
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came out we talked about the first album came out in 1992 so I was eight it was
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very unlikely that I was going to get my hands on a set or a CD of that album we had a lot of discussion about how you
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came about your recognition of the Stone Temple Pilots and how I did uh mine was more controlled by the MTV and the radio
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experience and how the singles were pushed to me and the rest of the world I wasn't much older when this album came
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out and so it was sort of the same thing there were different songs that I was exposed to in different ways ultimately
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I did not buy this album when it was released on June 7th did you oh yes you
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were first in line well I don't know about that but I definitely back in the day when you had to go literally go to the store you know stand in line and I
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held this CD in my hands absolutely anticipating a very good experience and a very good experience I got yeah I
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would have absolutely gone to the store to buy this CD I you remember the name of the store there was a few that we
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went to all the time there was one oh a andb sound that's what it was called a andb sound A and B sound for me I would
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have gotten a record like this if it had come out when I was of age of buying these things I would have gotten it at
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the Virgin record mega store yeah we didn't have I would yeah I would have gotten it at the Virgin record maybe in
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like a big city like Toronto or Montreal might have had a virgin record store but uh we didn't have that conglomerate in Victoria where I'm from but am sound was
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the big place to go for stereos and CDs and all that good stuff yeah if you want to hear our love of of stor Temple
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Pilots and how we became a fan of them what they meant to us in our younger years go check out part one where we covered the album core cuz we get into
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that and so much like the sophomore effort no introductions really needed we can just roll right into what this album
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is and what it means to us right now and little things about the songs this is one of my favorite parts of having these
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discussions is actually going back and researching not just some of the critical reception of the album both
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when it came out and then over time but also to look into what was sort of going on with the band at the time this album
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came out in June of 94 their last single from core was plush it was their fourth
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single fifth if you count a radio promo plush won the Grammy for Best hard rock
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song in April of 94 two months later STP is dropping their next album so they're
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capitalizing on having just won a Grammy in their category for one of their biggest songs another thing that was
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happening at this time was two months prior to purple being released but one of the songs was featured as the main
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and only single for a major Motion Picture yes the crow the crow did you
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see the crow I saw oh absolutely I saw in theaters of course I saw it knowing that Brandon Lee had already passed
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passed away or died on set literally he died on set while filming that movie I remember watching it again as a teenager
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I was 18 years old big into action films and seeing this on screen such a fun
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film I remember watching it and hating at the same time and loving it because I was like oh my goodness this is terrible
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he was going to be an explosive new star on the big screen I and I knew he would have been somebody that I would have loved to have seen seen for years to
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come in action movies and what have you his Charisma his good looks his fighting ability everything was there and I was
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just so heartbroken watching this performance knowing that this was a this is all we're going to get it makes you
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wonder whether or not they would release a movie like that under those circumstances today exactly knowing that
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people would go to see it like you did you look at what Marvel is going to do with to Chala and the character how
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they're going to revolve around Chadwick boseman's death and whether or not to continue that series knowing that
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everyone is going to see those movies with just an inevitable sour taste in their mouth knowing well this guy played
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this character there's definitely not going to be a sequel Bren and Lee is not appearing in any further movies if this
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movie is good it's going to be the best thing he ever did and and then it's over well same thing Happ with the Heath
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Ledger pass away before the release of Dark Knight same idea happened we watching this and I think their
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intention was to use him again in part three of that trilogy that could have deprived us of the wonderful memes and
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voice caricatures of Bane I don't know if we could live in a world that didn't have bunch of Frat Boys emulating that
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for three years on end that's true actually so yeah Heath Ledger's death was worth it after all I just put a
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positive spin on it is all I we'll get to that song but I yeah we'll get to that cuz I actually had no idea that that song was a single let alone the
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first single on the album the way that stone Tipple Pilots were riding this wave riding this wave of a Grammy win in
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a another hit single and a piece of a major motion picture that people liked and giving a vibe to that movie The Way
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That soundtracks did at that time and I think still do to a certain extent Stone tole Pilots were kind of on top of the
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world and their debut of this album was huge it sold 3 million albums in the first four months it went on to sell a
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total of six million it was number one on the billboard chart of all the albums released the week that it was released
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and it stayed there it spawned three singles two of them were number one on the Rock charts one of them is one of
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the biggest singles released that year Bar None this was a very successful album both in the planning and the
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execution purple it's one of the top 500 Rock and metal albums it's one of the top 100 guitar albums it's one of the
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top 10 hard rock albums released in 1994 Rolling Stones named it one of the top 50 grunge albums the way I view the word
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grunge and what it instills in maybe someone's mind maybe it this grunge or maybe they are grunge I don't know I
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don't think they are it's the same way people say like hair metal it's something we just say but hair metal
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sounds derogatory I hate using that term because there's some incredibly talented musicians and bands that I love that
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quote unquote may fall under the hair metal category but it strips away what you're really enjoying put in a label on
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it I guess hair metal does sound different than grunge and the bands do sound different under those categories grunge such a pigeon hole time where
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bands like Pearl Jam are still Turing I don't think are we still calling Pearl Jam today after all this time a grunge band in 2020 there's probably five or
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six bands that you would just always throw into that bucket I understand what hair band means and I almost think that
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that's sort of a coincidental moniker rather than a genre defining one can you
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be a hair band if you're bald yeah Judas Priest lead singer there yes absolutely
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if you play Grunge music it sounds kind of grungy there's no physical appearance
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that goes into that other than maybe flannel good old flannel you sent me a message on Facebook and said hey look
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last time you got the evens and I want the evens this time you said so you wanted the evens on this on
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this album and I have the quote unquote odds if you were to say to me Ryan you
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have to have only the songs that are odd on this album or the songs that are even on this album the worst songs on this
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album are the even numbers doesn't me that's what I thought that you would say yeah and not because I don't like them but if I was like man every odd number
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song that's killer that's killer that's killer that's killer so it's going to be interesting to talk to that start of the
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album It's called meatplow have you ever used a meat plow before I've never used
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Scott wyland's meat plow let's say that meat plow would actually be a great band name some of the song names that come
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out of this era and I just go like what on Earth were they thinking it's this in the late 90s the WWF had a character
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that they just named meat they named him meat meat plow is sort of an extension of that it was like a funny word that
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people said in the 90s they thought it was cool I think we all know what they were referring to I don't know what what
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are they referring to tell me well I think it's a Sex Type Thing look at that look at that little call back to the
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debut album so meat plow kicks off the album right
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away five place for a day
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breakdown takes more than a mail down to show us
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how throw a back on the road stop the
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me got a Bo but it ain't
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mine they got these pictures of
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everything to break us down yeah break me
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down they make us hand we
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make but I got a love and she shows me
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what a great intro and it's actually very similar to their intro of core uh
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with Dead and Bloated but the same kind of feeling of it's a little bit slower they got faster songs on this album like
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a faster beat songs this is again a little bit of grunge a little bit that slow drudgery type sound but but a
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little bit lighter than dead unbloated and it has a more constant Rhythm throughout and then we kick into a
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really dirty guitar [Music]
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Soul they got this pictures of everything
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just the guitar the solo and the overlan of the other guitar work that's going on this is this is just a rock piece right
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away I completely agree I actually would say it's a stronger introductory song
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than the first album even though we talked about how memorable the lyrics of
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Dead and Bloated are we also talked about how it's probably a two-minute song that went on for 5 minutes that's
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not what we have here no the timing of meat plow is um 337 337 is more
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tolerable it's actually almost one of the longer songs on this album this album is a tight ship it's 46 minutes I
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mean 47 minutes almost oh killer no filler I mean we don't have an instrumental song on this album we don't
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have a spoken word song on this album we do yeah have a bonus song that may or
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may not be included in it can't be nobody's in it bonus song does not feature any members of own double Pilots
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no now there's a hidden track that starts about 40 45 seconds after the 11th track kitchen wear and candy bars
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and the track is called my second album and for all these years all these years
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until researching I've never Googled I don't ever Google albums that I've listened to for decades I just think I
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know everything about them just because I just oh I do yeah you're good man so I did for this obviously for this podcast
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because I don't want to sound more than a [ __ ] than I am so I used to think that it was Scott cuz he's very versatile in his voice that it was him
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singing like a jazz croner I'm like oh that's very clever but I would have bet my $1,000 that it was the band plane I
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completely completely was fooled for decades yeah do you want to speak to who is actually singing The Hidden Track is
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called my second album it's a really really funny song It's a fourth wall
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breaking song it constantly references how the singer wants his second album to
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sell well he wants you to enjoy it as much as he enjoys Johnny mathys but that is these little inside
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jokes for stle pilot fans but this was actually saying by a man named Richard
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Peterson who was pre-existing artist they bought this song off of him and
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they included it there's a lot of times on this album where Scott does really
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really different things with his voice and it's not like he did it on one song and the next song as well he bounces
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back back and forth back and forth from a country artist to A psychedelic Brit
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pop band and more the bonus song is out of the question it would even be my pick
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there's a song that i' like less than that song it's a clever enough song that it's funny and but yeah it's got nothing
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to do with the S temp other than the fact that they like the song themselves it's from a 1985 album this song was
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already 9 years old and the quality of the recording is very well done they were doing a radio interview promoting
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their upcoming album the lp and the radio station or the cassette Drew their attention so they literally just played
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it on a whim they got a kick out of the title and that's how it ended up on the album I love it I absolutely love it yes
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me plow before we go on the next one talking about Dead and Bloated it's almost like they heard our critique in
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some sort of future weird time space continue because we said that denam BL would have been an incredible song had
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it been shortened by a couple minutes and not been repetitive and me plow did just that you can tell that the writing
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where the writing is headed and what these songs are about further into the album you can see there's an internal
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rhyme structure here that is actually pretty cool the way that he talks about his lover doing this and his brother
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doing that I almost wanted like a triplet of it to talk about his mother well I'm not entirely sure what the
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lover showed him and what the brother showed him I like the lyrical gymnastics that he was doing there the second song
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on the album is a little diddy called Vaseline spelled v a s o l i n e it was
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a big big big hit on radio it was the second single release from the album it
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eventually did reach number one for two weeks it was one of their longer lasting
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radio hits [Music]
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one time a thing occurred to me what's real and what's for sale do a kiss and
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try to take it
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home for things that you can't see going that a reach
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now you accused me last episode of being uh allergic single allergic to singles
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you said I take umbrage to that especially with a song like this you didn't last week I take umbrage with
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this album This Album that does very few things wrong it does a couple but very few things wrong this song it's a single
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I'm glad it's a single it does what a single's supposed to do and for whatever reason I just don't get bored that intro
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the way it kicks in the guitar sound the way Scott starts singing the way the the guitar changes and then the that drum
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beat behind and the bass slap and every this song is it just a gut punch rock song I never tired of it it's immune to
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single itis like Vaseline the singali itis slips off of it that is a wonderful description of this song Ryan three
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points for you in our imaginary game that we just started playing thanks for let mle the rules boy you have to say
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things that I like Ryan that's how it works I lose every episode we record but go on Vaseline was a very very popular
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single uh it was one of their two number ones on the Rock charts Scott says that
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the song is about him feeling like an insect under a magnifying glass what we have here is he's actually struggling
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with drugs on core we talked about Scott wyland's complicated thoughts about
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women about religion about himself and the thoughts that he's having on purple
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we hear only his thoughts about heroin yeah this song has the you know it has
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the it has the repetitive kind of stuck in the same rut it's exciting and it's
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good for three minutes but would you want to live in that song with that sort of thing going uh on and on that's what
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Scott says he was writing about his this constant cycle of being stuck in being a
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junky really not living a new situation he's living the same situation over and
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over again there is a really cool Solo in this
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song lies in the vessel we are sometimes it blows my mind keep getting stuck here
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all the time so again we have scottt doing that almost that side mouth singing all the
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time absolutely well and I think some of this comes to the inspiration of this album that sort of singing out at the
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side of your mouth thing that's a country music thing it's a more folky and a more downhome way of country cring
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in Canada do you guys have any awareness of American country music at all oh we love it up here I don't listen to it but
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there's a huge country fan base can we have our own country stars of course country singers I can't name any because
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I'm an idiot but there are many country stars I just don't listen to that genre of music so I wouldn't be able to name you five artists from Canada well Shai
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Twain of course in the early 90s or mid 90s was a big country pop star on over
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Ryan oh yeah that's right I mean she was boy those videos oh man yeah easy to
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look at there was a very popular music video about this song that came out around the time it played into a lot of
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the tropes of music videos in the the or mid 90s there was a clown of course like
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a creepy clown like a dink the clown on steroids or something on some sort of drugs there were these very quick shots
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of insects and a girl catching butterflies I think that's what they talk about you know in this whole
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Vaseline aspect he says he purposefully misspelled vaseline as a portmanto of
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Vaseline and gasoline the gel is vasoline with an E not an O and gasoline
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obvious is an oilbased product that highly flammable so may have wanted to make a reference to the chemical weapon
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known as Napal there we are with that the um video was creepy as a lot of them
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were it ends with Scott walking through a waterfall of blood lovely correct love
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it okay so now number three loungefly they pushed themselves to new limits new
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sounds on this album where they did not repeat really anything on what they did on core they really pushed new sounds
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new directions argue that they did what way we'll get to it well I to say every song but this is yeah no no yeah it
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probably will speak into what my worst pick might be but oh I know what your worst Pi no you probably don't yes I do
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yes I do what I want you to do is I want you to write it down right now and then you can reveal it to me after I pick it
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and then we'll know if you got it right you think that I'm going to say one thing but it's definitely the other
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thing okay write down first what you think I'm going to say and then write write down what you know I'm going to
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say what you think I'm think you're going to say there you go correct correct holy this is like Inception
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exactly what do you think that I'm thinking that you're thinking exactly okay all right here we go writing it
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down I'm going to write it down your pick let's see here okay I think that you can figure it out can we do two
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choices two choice is that fair out of 11 songs two choices are you going to make me do a top three again oh yeah you
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got have a top three okay all right all right all right yeah go ahead go ahead and do two I don't need to I know exactly which song You
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Hate okay Ryan Ryan I knew it last to you're wrong I knew it last time too
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you're wrong I think you think you think that I know what you're thinking but you're wrong so this is my pick I just
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going to write this down okay this will definitely your top two and this one oh
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well maybe this one okay this is kind of a Dark Horse if you pick this one I hate you but the one I think you're going to
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pick for sure but you will definitely invite me on
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another episode we'll see okay here we go lounge fly if there's a top three
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songs this is it I Lounge fly is in my top three there you go so this is I a top three yeah well we don't really want
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to do that too too much I'll just say this one is I we've often just say what our maybe our favorite song is maybe two
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songs because we don't want to obviously like we say that 10 times and obviously the 11th one that we didn't say was our
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favorite song would be our worst pick okay here we go
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loungefly what an intro I just love that sound I do love the intro you have any
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idea I was going to ask you since you played the intro what is that instrument I heard it was a a a tape like a tape
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rewind so it's just a backwards effect so you could oh so it's something they did in post production yeah I don't think you could you could do that part
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live necessarily I don't sandpaper to me you know like really good sounding sandpaper yeah I think it just kind of
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sets the mood it sets the mood of the [Music]
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song This is a drum this is a drum song okay this is a drum song
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it's okay it's okay okays on meend on me me you kill me the
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loue fly the loue fly the fly you bring me I think I'm free with the dogs they won't releas don't have a Niger or a
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dollar but my Bott EMP but always will feel I'm
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sing what an intro even when you hear that for the first time like where's the song going to go and then it just kicks in with that I love the the way he this
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is a speak sing song that we've talked about this I completely agree it sounds like he's reading a poem
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yeah I just love the way he's able to do that but still make it sound it's hard
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to I said a thousand times on this show I can't sing a note to save my life but to even to be able to kind of talk sing
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you got to be able to do that without it make it sound like you're just talking Lounge fly set me up for what this Vibe
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was going to be this is a guy just ripping but he certainly knows the Rhythm that he's going to sing in and
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that's sort of more important than the words this actually has some of the more
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intricate words and lyrics in a lot of the songs here I really enjoy some of it
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and it builds it's a five minute song that takes all of that five minutes and 18 seconds to get where it's going
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there's no boring part in the song at all it's five minutes long but they pack like you said so much into it I guess
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it's officially their longest song Because kitchen wearing cany bars text on the hidden track for Tim length so
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loung fly is the longest song but again unlike the Dead and Bloated from their first album this it it just has time
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changes has s and we're going to go to that time change right now where it's almost like oh we got a different song going on here the lyrics at the end of
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the song where he keeps repeating uh she said she'd be my woman she said she'd be
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my man those were lyrics from an earlier Mighty Joe Young song I have to go on
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YouTube I bet there's some demos out there of that stuff there are some demos also there's this great ending guitar
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solo that you may be teeing up here do you know that the actual performer on
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this solo is not a stone triple pilot is this my pick or is this your pick you're like oh my goodness I really really love
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doing the research Ryan I admit some of my research is pretty lacky and I apologize I'm not we've establish this
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I'm more the feeling guy how does it make me feel am I tap my foot am I enjoying it you're very good researcher
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that's almost like your job in real life very close yeah so it's something that you're good at and no I appreciate it
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but that's like the one piece of trivia that I had for this song so let me say it right so tell me everything you know
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about Paul ly okay well he's a butthole surfer you're damn right he is okay
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that's the name of the band guys just so nobody asks me I didn't I didn't name call him he's from a band called The Butthole Surfers that I heard about even
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back in the '90s just cuz that name is so memorable unbeknown to me it wasn't Dean Dean de that played this it was uh
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their friend friend of the band plays the outro in this the soul and outro which you'll hear right now
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[Music] I can give what I take away oh that's a
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great solo so good job to Mr lry on that and the drums though you this is that drum behind that it's like a Tribble
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type just the way it just bounces all over the place I just love it hats off to Curts on that absolutely absolutely I
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I think there's a lot of room for some great solos in this and I don't know if you would consider what the drummer does
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as a solo but he outshines all of it on this song There is some notable drums on
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some later songs and he really switches it up and shows what he can do with different instruments and and whatnot
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it's a drum driven song and I really really really enjoyed it sorry for stepping on your toes with my bit of
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triv it's okay it's like I said I've that was the my Peak research that was it that I was going to shine on that one
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but uh oh well I want you to tell us as much as you can about the butthole sorfers I really think this is important
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that's all I know we've exhausted my knowledge I and and again with uh with my research on
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this album I've never Googled the album I just listened to it again thought that was Dean the whole time so again I've
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had two things occur to me on this research is that my second album is not a song At All by the band The Guitar
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sold at the end of louish fly a great part by the way but they gave that to their friend so that's fun really great
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part and an uncredited feature role I just don't know if in 1994 rock bands
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were featuring people and crediting them in that way it might have been the liner notes I never saw it all right number
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four is a song called Interstate love song what do you call freeways in Canada
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highways highways yeah freeway I know I wonder if that's more of an American thing than Canadian you don't have
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interat no we don't have interstates we have interprovincial yeah I'm GNA sound like anidi people that are
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Canadian are be like of course Ryan there's freeways in Canada you're an idiot which is true again I've never said I'm not an idiot I'm just saying
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where I'm from in Victoria there's highways absolutely and they're labeled as such but I don't think anything's
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labeled as a freeway freeway kind of denotes a larger piece of highway or more Lanes
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maybe that's an interesting discussion I have never had any sort of a distinction
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between a freeway and a highway an interstate is clearly something like we have Interstate 70 that goes from
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Colorado to Maryland that's an interstate highways can be like State highways freeways are clearly just a
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differentiation between a free Road and a toll road I sure wish there was some sort of tool that we could use where you
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you put in your question or query and some sort of pre-research would come up and you could read it my tool for this
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is my authoritative Source on all things Canadian Ryan rebal okay well here we go all freeways Drew all freeways are
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highways but not every Highway is a freeway I like that a freeway is a
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controlled access Highway also known as an Express Highway that's designed exclusively for car traffic or vehicle
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traffic traffic flow on a freeway is unhindered because there are no traffic lights signals intersections or atgr
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Crossings with other roads railroads and pedestrian path so the main difference between freeways and multiple highways
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is that in the case of freeways these roads are separated from the rest of the traffic and it can be accessed by ramps
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ah yes that would so we have freeways in Canada we just often don't refer to them because of course we have off ramps but
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that's what it means so wait a second wait a second we let you have off ramps I know you finally thank you America for
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giving Canada off ramps we appreciate that so there you go off ramps that's your key so Highway doesn't have to have
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an offramp what we have here number four on Stone Temple Pilots Purple is a song
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about off-ramps yes Scott wyland's love of off ramps his tendency to deceive
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them and let them down actually Interstate loves song was released in September of 1994 it's the third single
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off of purple it is an instantly iconic song almost no matter where you jump in
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you listen to the beginning and you sort of have that ramp up with an incredible
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incredible Bass Performance and then leag guitar performance if you isolate
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the vocals as you might do in Scott wyland's acoustic performance on the BBC
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he really really shined both singing and humming his lyrics here are secondary things that he does with
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his voice the Simplicity really of the way that the band interacts together
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[Music]
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we on a Sunday afternoon I between the
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L life [Music]
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[Applause] [Music] [Applause] feeling like a hand and rested CH so do
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you laugh to cry
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reply with the opening it reminds you of the the country rock inspiration of some
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of the songs on this album this and one of the other singles very heavily inspired by blues and country rock
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the guitars are not playing over each other the instruments are not fighting
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with each other it almost seems these sounds are inherently existing together
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and they know when one comes in and one comes out this is only a 3 minute and
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14c song it's just purely packed with these hooks there's a guitar hook
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there's you know all of the different lyrical things he does obviously this song was a monster hit at debuted number
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one taking the spot of Vaseline it was number 18 on the top 100 probably the
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biggest hit of Stone Temple Pilot's career just in terms of that sort of thing it's obviously got longevity it
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has a lot of genre Inspirations that spoke to me at that time I told you that
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I was a big listener of the radio well one of the things that I listen to on the radio when I didn't get to choose
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the station it was country music and that's something that brought me to this song because it did not sound like all
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of the other Stone pilot songs it sounded inspired by some of those other
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[Music] genres train only
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yesterday you
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promisees what I seem to be holy
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was go by all the
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you said to me great Baseline by Rob there too really hearing the Basse on
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this remastered version of the album to remind everyone that we're listening to the re-released version that came out I
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believe in 2019 for the 25th anniversary I'm listening to it on Apple music this
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is a single and I'm not g to say anything other than I know it's a single and I get why it's a single it is a
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great single it's a great song it's not boring at all it doesn't suffer from plush it it does not suffer from creep
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iish for me I think it's aged better than those songs absolutely again so as a single it's a stronger single I
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recognize why it has longevity it showcases Scott's singing abilities and the uh the composition skills of the de
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brother specifically Rob who does most of the compositions of these songs so yeah I mean I don't really have anything
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bad to say about it I'm not trying to do a trick anyone here or anything I'm just telling the truth I get the song and I get it is why it is does the song speak
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to you Ryan I can never relate with the inter state so there's been this Rift between you
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and off ramps that we just haven't been able to figure out I do miss making out in the car though I I did that as a
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teenager and uh boy as a a young kid I definitely knew this song before I knew
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the name you're not going to tag off my line I miss making out in cars Drew I the beauty of being young and driving
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you're 16 years old you got a date in the car and you know I'm sure I played this song with a girl in the car was I
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supposed to call you old here I think so I think that's that's I've just aged myself why would they name it this I
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think the the word Interstate sort of indicates perhaps a longdistance thing
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or perhaps a like a longing that you have for a person or in this instance
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where you can tell the point of view of the song is someone that has lied and
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been lied to these are the overwhelming tropes of this song the conversations
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that we had and the untruth that I told you it's not exactly an apology it is a
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regret in the instance of regretting the misdeeds that have been done the lyrics
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of this song he ends the first chorus with all of these things you said to me
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that's very iconic everyone sings that part he ends the second chorus with all of these things I said to you right yeah
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so it sort of comes full circle this was a toxic relationship on both parts right
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that was very interesting to me because there is the very very famous BBC recording of the acoustic version and
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it's on this Deluxe album that we're listening to the acoustic version of
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this song that was released and was popularly played on radio and I think I downloaded it on kazah back in the day
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right he does not change the lyric he repeats all of these things you said to
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me hm well obviously the girl is the problem as is usually the case girl liar right
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and if she's got something to say to Scott she can write her own song but uh write your own song well clearly this
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was a song that that Scott wrote about his trouble with addiction and his lies
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to his at this point this was specifically his lies to his significant other who was his wife at the time the
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video for this song is I dare say very on the nose the video of this song
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features like a mind type character in a silent movie he gets kicked out of his
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home with a woman and at that time his nose starts growing he starts being
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hunted by some unseen forces there's a helicopter at one point uh the band drives out to the desert and Scott
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dances around with a pink feathery jacket very iconic and all the while
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this Pinocchio type character the nose just keeps growing I he jumps into a ditch or something presumed dead the
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Pinocchio mime type character from the interstate love song video song five
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Still [Music] [Applause] [Music]
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[Applause] [Music]
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[Applause] Remains our bed we live our bed we sleep
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making love and N me BL is w all what they could be
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stepping for and you be [Music]
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[Music] [Applause] [Music] coming
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no it's a song and sing i [Applause]
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y take a bath I'll trink the water that
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you if you should before me I don't want
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to stop it oh okay don't stop it I know I just I'm sorry again we have to love
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this song so much it just I know something about the way he sings the guitar strum like the guitar tone the
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strumming of the sound I just sway back and forth It's almost like a slow song but it's not a soul song but you can
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slow dance to the song Almost you know like the way it just goes back and forth and I could just picture myself like on
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a beach you know with my again teenage days you know on the beach with my girl
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or driving the summer night drive or something it's just the song just it's a romantic song in a weird way that's what
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I wrote down really this is romantic song yeah yeah it is it really is it's it's ironically Maybe This Is The Love
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Song and I was going to also I hate it when I say I was going to say I I always edit that stuff out by the way cuz it's
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redundant I'm going to say something here I go here I go I'm going to say it I'm I don't even notice what you eded
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out about me I'm sure you eded out all the sort of I do I any yeah well it's
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for everyone that record with anything anyone that says like sort of you know that's all I know anyways okay so so
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that's I just said so and I add out all my so so here we go so Still Remains
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ironica was not a single and it's it's this song where it would have ruled as a
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single I think it would have been an amazing single I think it could have been interchanged with Interstate Love Song and again
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Interstate love song does suffer for me personally cuz I've been listening to I've been listening to this album for 25
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years it's not the fault of the song so I'm just being honest it does suffer a little bit from single itis because I
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I'm so aware of it's airpl It's video play it's a much music MTV play I wonder alternate universe Ryan would feel the
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same way but still remains had that been the single and not Interstate love song I don't know if I can imagine this being
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a single really I understand a certain strategy with rock bands and slow songs
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you want to release it as the second single off of an album you want to have a song that sounds like your stuff and
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then you want to release your attempt at a slow song and you have this third single lined up that also sounds like
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your rock and roll stuff that you're sort of ready to unleash if the slow song doesn't take off so I'm not
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entirely sure if Still Remains would have been that second single spot instead of it would have been like big
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empty and then Still Remains I you don't go too no well they went big well now we kind of spoiled The Big Empty was the
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first single well yeah that's not a spoiler yeah we didn't mention it yet we were going to say we're going to tell which song it was so we didn't say it
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yet so that's just sort of my thing is maybe in the planning it would certainly go as a fourth sing after yeah yeah I
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think so because really really enjoy the lyrics here you see that he's he's talking about flowers a lot there's
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flowers all over the thing he gets really image filled he says a yellow nectar ring he says what was the other
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one he says something about orange yeah orange blossoms he's being very very descriptive and very Illuminating for
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what he's talking about obviously you've got one of the alltime lines Ryan I did not know that the Stone Temple Pilots
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podcast would cross over with our celebrity items for sale podcast but I
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want to talk to you about take a bath I'll drink the water that you leave who did that again who who bottled their
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water that was our gamer girl bath water podcast that's our gamer girl if I
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recall correctly I got you to admit that you currently own two bottles of gamergirl bath water that that's that's
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accurate still one I I drank one of them I had to you Dr for strength and
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vitility yeah so Still Remains however is a great companion to Interstate Love Song those
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two go hand in hand I think they're good companion pieces obviously the track listing in order was intentional so I
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think that was their intention there I have actually heard and seen some discussion about the placement of the
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songs on this album we had a short discussion previously about how core seemed it was a very intentionally
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planned album where the singles were positioned and what was between them and how it ended and this and that I believe
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that this album falls into the same category I think that this was a different era when plans were made to
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put the songs in a certain order and that may be the explanation for why things are where they are there was a really cool part at
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about 220 yeah again this is my would you stop this is my okay that I know
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where the good stuff is that was my again I Tim stamped that same thing now people aren going to sound like church
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bells at that point that's what I really like so go ahead play that part
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[Music] [Applause] [Music]
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tells the things live well drink the
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[Music] wi such clever lyrics and clever word
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placement drink the wine save the I I love that lyric I love the way it sounds the way it's delivered it's just a and
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then again he says skin is smooth I steal a glance dragonflies are Gliding Over so he's talking about flowers and
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fruits and dragonflies it's a beautiful song it's just in terms of his choices
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on this one much different than some of the other ones where we'd be like um you know Simple lyrics or whatever bugs in a
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jar this and that no no he's painting a picture here he really is this song very
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hippie like it's almost like I can see the flowers in the hair in 1960s free love it's I think he was drawing from
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that imagery that it's just so it makes me feel peaceful I agree they have some songs where they certainly get louder
51:33
and they certainly do some different things with collaborations of the guitars and the grunge style or the alt
51:39
Rock style or whatever they're moving into this one stays pretty consistent probably the closest thing to a romantic
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song or love song all right number six is a promotional single that was
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released from this album it was not made into a music video it was not actually
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charted in any real official way this is a song called pretty penny the song is
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definitely a departure from any sort of grung rock or alt Rock sounding the
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guitars are not crunchy and distorted in the way that they are in the other songs
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this is very very different from the song that precedes it and the song that follows it but it is a song that is
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again about drugs again does have some pretty clear references to a a girl that
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is uh unfortunately involved in drugs and how that goes for [Music]
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her when you wake in the morning gone when you find that there's no one
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sleeping gone pretty penny was her name
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she was loved and we all will miss her how far
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will at first listen if not Stone Temple Pilots who does this remind you of Ryan
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yes this is probably where they just for the record I'm on the fence with my pick
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which will be very interesting to see which one you wrote down and don't reveal I'm not going to look at your
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head or your eyes cuz I can see on camera but I'm going to say this for our audio audience that I would assume this
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was one of your two picks but don't confirm or deny with any kind of verbal cuz I'm I'm looking away I'm guessing
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what you guess that I was going to guess that you guessed you put pretty penny
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as one of my top two worst songs or if not even the worst song a note right
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here and I'm not changing it I'm letting you know okay I'm gonna put it put it right here okay so that being that being
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said it's a well-crafted song Wells song whatever but it draws or too much
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unintentionally so maybe from uh Nirvana's cracker wow that's where you
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went with it Nirvana's crack yeah is there anyone that you think Nirvana's
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cracker was inspired by maybe go please do tell perhaps the biggest band of the
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1960s well the Beatles that's the beetle song Baby Which beetle song Wan wood
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this bird has flown oh I love that song the satar the satar really only shows up
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in in certain [Music]
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songs G [Music]
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oh [Music] [Applause]
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[Music] it I I was just going to say like
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anything after they went to India literally yeah yeah George got into the
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satar and and I mean John was going nuts already so that just added to it that's
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fantastic good good that's a great pull yeah I hear it now absolutely listen to the song without thinking Beatles ripoff
54:58
when you hear later Stone Tipple pilot songs or like I don't know a lot of
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stuff on songs from ban gift shop I thought that they were going in this way what this song's classified is it's
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called a psychedelic rock song it's called a folk rock song did you happen
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to listen to the second Panic at the Disco album pretty odd no I don't I've never heard any they made the same
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mistakes that stone tole pilots make on this song for a stone tole Pilots song it's fine but you know it very very
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clearly hearkens to what was going on there 30 years ago
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[Music]
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I just like that hypnotic bridge that they do there I think that's one of the better parts of that song but I will
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admit I don't really think I like sitar oh okay fair enough well of course it's
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fair enough look this is not a perfect album but it's if I had to give it a score out of 100 I don't know 95 even my
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worst pick I don't if somebody didn't skip it like on the core album again I'll be happy if I never hear creep or
56:25
plush again I'll be happy to this day I will for never I'll never put it on on purpose I'm sorry I'll die never hearing
56:31
it again from me hitting play but this album I could have have on random without access to skipping a song and I
56:36
wouldn't freak out that's the difference between the two albums for me and it's good to have that confidence in what you
56:42
like and what you don't like and clearly you came at these songs much differently than I did and you had an ear for what
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you you liked and I had an ear for what what was
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on track seven silver gone Superman great titles on this whole album this is
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one of my favorite titles this is probably the best Superman song ever written and yes that means you crash test
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[Music]
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dummies find you in the dark read you like a cheap Bri is
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without shame tell me I frame your name I could
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hear when the big whisper s jealousy is a weapon you kill me keep it down for
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truth you might [Applause]
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tell you
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told it I love it [Applause]
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[Music] was I love the song I truly do I think you probably knew that I love the song
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yeah I did I just love the way he he sings that low singing tenor and he kicks him with this high with the chorus
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and we got of hear that little sitar going on in the background I don't know if that's a little satar sound did you catch that I catch it you're trying to
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put this on my [ __ ] list man no no I'm not I am not I I just love the song the
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way he sings it and and it kicks into a amazing solo and this is of course this
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is Dean a nice long solo but I'm going to play it anyways cuz I don't care you wanted to make sure I didn't call that
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one out this is me this is my time stamp [Applause]
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oh
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[Music]
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[Applause] Wicked Soul at the end yeah it's a great
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song great rock song and anytime you can mention Superman the song is always bonus of my books he's my favorite comic
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book hero so your favorite comic book her so we're almost leaving the stone tle Pilots conversation Al together but
59:52
would you consider the three doors Down song Kryptonite a Superman song yeah I I
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would say so you can't say Kryptonite not associated with Superman is Kryptonite better than the song no no
1:00:06
okay what about the 2002 smash hit by rapper Eminem Superman
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no all right so it's just down to the Stone Temple Pilots and the Crash Test Dummies probably yeah Crash Test Dummies
1:00:19
is a great song it's a great song and that is a great song about Superman but Five for Fighting can go jump on a lake
1:00:26
stop it silver gun Superman is a fantastic song it's back to the very traditional
1:00:32
Stone tle pilot style after that pretty penny interlude what I enjoyed was the
1:00:39
overuse almost of the idiom you towed the line I think it's really really fun
1:00:47
when bands use idioms in terms of phrase like that and Stone Temple Pilots does it again later in this album and I'm but
1:00:54
I really really enjoys when they use that as a repetitive part of their chorus there's a band that I really like
1:00:59
called an Berlin that does that quite often it's a very easy way to relate to
1:01:04
a song you know what that idiom means and it sort of makes you grin a little bit when you see how they're speaking
1:01:10
they're saying one thing but you know what they mean in the instance of Scott wyland's drug issues do you think Toad
1:01:16
the line might mean something else as well or to line I see line of cocaine
1:01:23
yeah that would be right that would be right was Toad the Wet Sprocket a thing at this point seven different
1:01:29
possibilities for what he means here when he says Toad the line maybe are you a fan of Toad the Wet Sprocket you'll
1:01:36
find out during our next podcast the worst of the best Toad the Wet Sprocket
1:01:41
hosted exclusively by you just drew solo talking about a band
1:01:47
he doesn't know much about oh man I really enjoyed silver gun Superman the
1:01:52
next song is the one that we've been alluding to along this is is a song
1:01:57
called Big Empty it was the lead single off of The Crow soundtrack it was the
1:02:03
only single on The Crow soundtrack it was a song that was released as a single
1:02:09
from The Crow soundtrack three months before the stone Tipple Pilots Purple album was released it is definitely
1:02:16
something that set off this album to sort of have the big sales that it did in the big radio performance that it did
1:02:23
the song actually was performed live on the MTV Unplugged episode in November of
1:02:28
93 I really enjoyed that unplugged episode because you know wasn't this
1:02:34
hard-hitting grunge guitars I really think that my parents at the time for a nine-year-old were okay with me watching
1:02:41
an acoustic performance as opposed to like a live concert of mosh Pitts and whatnot seeing this song performed
1:02:47
acoustically was really really nice in that original session the interesting thing about this song is that they never
1:02:54
made a video for this song despite it being the lead single off of a big hit
1:03:00
movie that had this very interesting imagery of this goth superhero who was
1:03:06
resurrected rock star that's who the crow was a resurrected musician who uh
1:03:12
wanted to avenge the death of his wife and child I believe they' never made a video that had STP in the crow world you
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remember those videos from Nicholas Cage and the goooo video
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for City of Angels I got to pull up my naming other band's Bingle card we've got Google dolls fire for fighting to
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the Wet Sprocket th ey blind Beatles you stop me from saying the next
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things on my list because I do want to discuss this uh Smashing Pumpkin oh here we go that was my that's the last one I
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needed that was it big [Laughter] big the first Spider-Man movie had a
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soundtrack that had a hit single named hero from your favorite band Canada's
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own Nickelback all right we've totally derailed this episode this is we plugged
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we we brought up Nickelback and I think that's an automatic I've actually sort of made a rule that we're going to talk
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about Nickelback on every episode we do from here on out this will be your last episode if that's the case I'm going to
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be one for one in my search for Nickelback when it comes to soundtracks
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I thought that this was very interesting in the growth of STP and the sales of this album that they would be the only
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single off of this soundtrack the soundtrack also included bands like nine
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in Nails The Cure panta Rage Against the Machine the violent fims when you get
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put on a soundtrack with these other bands you are telling the audience that you are part of this sort of genre that
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sort of defines this movie it sort of creates new genres that's not grunge that's not hairband that's not metal
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it's the Bands That Make Music that fits for this movie and there were other bands during this time or other songs
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and soundtracks during this time that sort of showed the thing I really enjoyed some soundtracks in the mid90s
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like the Space Jam soundtrack some soundtracks like the aforementioned Smashing Pumpkins Batman soundtrack
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these were ones that put songs together so that I could be introduced to new bands that fit a certain mold with the
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ones that I liked and again I was very young when these things happen The Crow soundtrack 3 million albums almost four
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million albums so clearly they were doing something right Ryan what's your thought on soundtracks are you okay with
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the movie production company to tell you what songs should go in your movies kind of like obviously Greatest Hits package
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but yeah it's a various artist package for a film that fits the tone of the film did you find that Stone Temple
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Pilots fit the tone of the crow film you know what I saw the crow film in the theaters I'm a huge Stone Temple piles
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fan when this album came out like I didn't know that this was a single I didn't know this was a single let alone on The Crow soundtrack I didn't even
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know that wow so to answer your question I've never once bought a movie soundtrack that had the various artists
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on it I however have bought and enjoy the score soundtracks I love that oh I
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appreciate knowing that who's your favorite oh who's your favorite score artist I was Zimmer I love some H Zimmer
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yeah Trevor Jones the last hean soundtrack makes me cry who did that one Trevor Jones that's Trevor Jones okay
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John Williams is a classic answer as well right he is I'm not a big fan of him because I find he's always just John
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Williams e again the Gladiator soundtrack can you imagine that movie without that soundtrack no and I know
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people would argue that with Star Wars but I feel like John Williams he's created some incredible scores because I'm not I'm not a big Stephen Spielberg
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fan and I think that I associate Williams with Spielberg and I'm not a big Spielberg I associate Williams with Lucas interesting well because Lucas did
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Star Wars Jones those are the first two and those are great scores great themes the Jones themes and Star Wars themes I
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I love but I'm not a big Spielberg fan and John Williams has scored everything that Spielberg's done almost so certainly has anyways all right we're
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learning Lots this episode and thank you for indulging here's a little bit of Big
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[Music] Empty too much walking shoes worn
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thin too much tripping and my Souls War
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[Music] th time to catch a ride it leaves today
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her name is what it means too much walking
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[Music] sh time to take her home her easy
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is yeah cut it out before conversations killed but that's fine I think that at
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the end of the day this is the love child of creep and plush that those two songs come together to create the vibe
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that we have here no wonder this was a big hit because those were both big hits so after Big Empty we come with the song
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unglued a perfectly app named title for the level of energy that the song is because now the band becomes a little
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bit unglued and they're like enough of that big empty
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[Music]
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[Music] modation but it's what what makes you feel good I'm St about about I
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was yeah thing is going on me I got this
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thing is going on me I got this feel going over me
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[Applause] oh first off what a killer this goes right away into this Rocking song If you
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hear this live at a concert you're not you're not not moving you are moving your feet your hands this a Jump Around
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song for sure yeah this was a radio promo was it not it was a radio promo
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absolutely it got to number eight on the mainstream charts yeah and was performed
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live on my favorite talk show host David Letterman he's my he's my favorite if you like David Letterman humor then you
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get my humor that's probably the easiest way to I think that's why you do top 10 list and things like that yeah there you
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go I should do the worst of the best of top 10 list okay just like 25 seconds after what we just where we just stopped
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it it kicks into a wicked guitar solo [Applause]
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[Music]
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moderation [Music] mation
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what so the song's it's the sister the cousin of Vaseline in many ways it's short quick dirty rocking doesn't let up
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if you skip skip the song depart from my episode leave now if you skip this song
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I Really really enjoy unglued I almost think it's like a punk song it just goes
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hard two minutes and 30 seconds there's nothing wasted there this was the last
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song that Scott performed live really one that he really enjoyed and I think
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he was playing it with his band in 2014 or 2015 when he was touring uh as a solo
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artist that this is the last one that he performed lives on almost the 5year
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anniversary of his passing he passed on December 5th 2015 so we are in the
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anniversary month I think that uh we can pour one out for Scott for unglued and
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this promotional single that was uh one of his favorites and it breaks my heart that he's passed G I hate that it breaks
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my heart but with everything that was going on in the 90s with artists like him we could almost say that he was
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lucky to make it as long as he did yeah we still had four albums after this one with the band we were blessed with so
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much that he did after that there are some great live performances that like hard rock in 2010 that he did when he
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came back to the band people really enjoyed that 2010 album that they put out he lived longer than Lane Staley and
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Kurt Cain so so number 10 is a song called army ants this is a song that is
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not a single it is about 3 minutes and 46 seconds s it's one of the longer
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songs on the album it has an absolutely beautiful intro Scott starts off yelling
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in the song at first but he then actually gets into singing I like what he did on pretty Penney and sort of like
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what he's done on different other songs he's singing in a tone that we really haven't heard him singing before which is interesting that he changes things in
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these albums there's a really fantastic Bridge uh about two minutes long and it it's a song that has you know some good
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solos it I don't think that it ever would have made it to be a single but it's a great great bside track
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[Applause] [Music]
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[Applause] [Music] to KI you can't feel to hit man you
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can't do with the way I I love the way that the time change
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happens there in that solo it's just in the right ear too which is an interesting choice that's very interesting that they would do that I
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really enjoyed the bridge there that sort of sounds like a lead Zeppelin type of thing or you know some some
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inspiration there I hear it in a lot of alt alt rock bands that I've listened to for 20 plus years I think it's beautiful
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I think it's a great way to string together some pretty louder and more energetic portions of their song well
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the last song on the album kitchen wear and candy bars the most interesting titled song on the album and in Canada
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we actually call them chocolate bars there's no such thing as a candy bar in Canada well they exist but we call them
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chocolate bars so yeah just a little little trivia there Canadians call it chocolate bars
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but I was in the states for four years I've mentioned that before with the post scene for 2011 to 2015 I call Pop soda
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now from Ohio I call it pop oh there you go yeah there are some Eastern State or yeah eastern states do kind of it's very
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sporadic it's like Midwest but like half the Midwest yeah or you can just call it soda pop and everyone kind of
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understands at that point kitchen wear and candy bars I'm just going to say I love this song I I like it too oh it's
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the [Music]
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buildup I'll edit this intro guitar it's a little bit long but that's what I hear is singing here
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[Music] somebody told
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me I know where to go
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somebody showed me I was last to
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know sell me down the river sell me down the
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river sell me down the river [Music]
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s me down the river what I
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want what I want am what I
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[Applause] [Music] want okay so this song has such an
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incredible buildup and we're going to play the cresendo or the climax and the
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Apex of this song it's at the end the album this is an incredible album closer and it ends with an emotional punch I
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mean granted there's a hidden track but we've already talked about that but this is incredible album closer I just love
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the energy and the emotion that he sings Scott sings at the end at the 2-minute 45 second Mark we have very subtle
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string instruments kick in and then that guitar solo and the way he just ah the way he sings it at the end I just I am
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just let me get it queued up
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somebody show me that was the last to
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know sell me down the river sell me down the
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river sell me down the river sell me down the
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river what I want is what I
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want what I [Music]
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want I'm going to keep it going I don't care uhuh it's all
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[Music]
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crunchy oh man [Music]
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what I want what I want
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[Music]
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[Music]
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I love buildup songs I just love them so much and just the power at the end just the way he sings in that crunchy guitar
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it goes back to the uh the string instruments kick in and just chills uh yeah Crescendo songs are fantastic but a
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crescendo song with a string section like you got me you got me you made it
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happen I wish they had a string section on eight of these songs instead of one I just love this song so much so
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powerful so emotional and it just H what an Ender what an Ender to this uh
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discussion in album I absolutely love the song I think that as far as his use
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of a repetitive idiom fell me down the river it's just one of these things that
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like a paranoid person thinks it's one of these things that a sensitive and an
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internal sort of living person thinks is that at any point someone is going to
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turn on them someone is going to use their success for their own means and
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it's almost folky to to use this term sell me down the river if he needed to
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make it any more clear he's afraid of his own success this is a song reflecting his internal thoughts about
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it I think it's a fantastic song I absolutely love the build everything about it appeals to me it cuts off at
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about the 430 Mark and then we go into uh what did you say say a 45 second you
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know stoppage and then we get some really weird but interesting and I think
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funny bonus song okay we'll play it just for a little bit just so we people know what we're talking about again this is
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not anyone from the band this is a song that they heard during the recording of
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the album that they thought it' be fun to to insert at the end of the album stating this is our second album so it's
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basically another artist talking about a second album they thought would be a great way to end it in a humorous way
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[Music] [Applause]
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[Applause] the second album 12 precious
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Melodies this would be the 12 hope you enjoy
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them like if it's s to me
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[Applause] listen to 12 great Tunes playing on your
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stereo dining and dancing soon entertain
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[Music] on I could see Scott changing his voice
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to sound like that he was certainly capable I think it's entirely in tune with his sense of humor yeah exactly
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it's 100% his sense of humor to do this sort of song where he talks about please
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buy my my new album and this is not the style of music that it will be but I
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mean he's got this song called Lounge fly this sounds like a lounge singer you know what I hear when I hear this I hear
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at the Copa Copa Cabana that's what I hear when I hear this little diddy that they threw on at the end but I really
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really love it it's a departure from everything and I like it I would dare say I like it more than I like pretty
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penny but uh I have complicated thoughts about this album I think they're all good
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whenever you feel like it oh yeah it's good okay so I admit your remarks
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regarding pretty penny I don't know if that was designed to throw me off my game what is your game Ryan I made a
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pick my two picks for you because I know you dislike lame song so I
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figured so so I know that you hate singles you know that I hate lame
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things because I think maybe I'm more wrong than you go ahead and you tell me
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can you name me the three songs that are in my bottom three or just the two the three songs in your bottom three
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Big Empty interstate and kitchen wear kitchen wear sure oh no I had to pick
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one no no no no no so what did you say I said Big Empty interstate and kitchen wear no kitchen wear is I just finished
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gushing about that how two out of three okay got two out of three yeah most easy thing in the planet to name your two out
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of three I understand I'm surprised you didn't throw in what did you say he pretty penny I'm surprised you didn't throw that in no I think that you like
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pretty penny this is just a fun game there's no harm and cuz I totally screwed up my guesses with you okay so
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you got yeah you got two out of three no I love kitchen wear I guess cuz I just finished gushing about it how much I loved it I thought that you were putting
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on a see we were overthinking it no no I wouldn't lie to you I wouldn't lie to you my bottom three are I think had I
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not played this game with you I think you would have picked Interstate Love Song which you did pretty penny and big empty but interstate love song
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It suffers from single itis but that's why I was being objective by saying hand suffers from being one of the most
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successful songs ever yes suffers suffers it's not my bottom to there you
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go because it's a great song it only suffers from being a single and it's not that song's fault so if I look at it
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objectively it's a good song it's just doesn't get me moving doesn't get me emotional like kitchen wear does it
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doesn't get me grooving like unglued does or banging my head like Vaseline does that's no fault of its own but still not
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to me it's a middle of the pack of a great album great song okay so yes now we're down to pretty penny and big empty
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and which one of those two is my pick you wrote it down yes Big Empty it's Big Empty obviously it was
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obvious so the reason why I don't like Big Empty compared to pretty penny pretty peny is pretty pretty pretty peny
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is pretty close to being the worst but at least it's something a little bit different it's acous
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it has a little bit of Harmony at least it's it stands out enough that it's just different even though it reminds me of
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n's cracker but it and it does speak a little bit to the sound of the time all the things work against it but it's just
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enough of a different song and it's not very long well it's actually 3 almost 4 minutes long big empty It suffers from
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just being a little bit boring it's just a boring song the chorus does save it the preor stuff is extremely boring and
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then the chorus is good but it's too repetitive that song fell off this album
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this would be a 98% album It's a near Perfect album but Big Empty it's just not and it's long it's almost 5 minutes
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long and if they shorten it through in a guitar Soul maybe it's just it just takes forever to go nowhere it went
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directly to number three on the billboard mainstream rock jarts it went directly to the MTV movie award for best
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song in 1994 can I guess your two worse you want to guess my bottom three so we're not
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including my second album we're just including the 11 from the original release I don't think I'm going to get
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anything right I'm really confused you're rundown of the album I was like I was trying to look for weak spots too and I like uh I didn't call anything a
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stupid Funk song no you didn't here's my bottom three For You Still Remains
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silver gun Superman I think your worst pick is army ants my friend you were 0
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for three I'm not surprised listening to break down the album I realized how wrong my picks were my guesses were part
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of this ran I credit to you what I have is is constantly evolving appreciation
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for uh the album structure and the things that are not singles that have to
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exist on an album in order for an album to happen what I do appreciate is how
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things build and how well Stone Tipple Pilots is pretty consistent right now they're going to give us this big epic
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of wandering seven minute song at the end of their album what I really really
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liked about some of these songs that were not singles was that what they have
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been able to do is do a softer song that has a crescendo that has some really
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powerful chorus in it and I was able to find that in almost all of these songs
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was that they built to a thing that they weren't this is a loud song and this is a soft song there's none of those
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they're all both or at the very least have some indicator of them my bottom three in no particular order bottom
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three pretty penny meat plow Big Empty to choose the least favorite out of all
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of them I had to make sure that I wasn't doing the very obvious thing well what was very obvious last time right we did
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core and what did I choose I choose the standout one minute Spoken Word album
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where he talks about wedding is bed right and you told me that their biggest hit single off that album was worse than
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the wet my bed song that's what you told me yes I would listen to wet my bed any day of the week over a plush I would
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take the spoken word wet my bed over no you didn't pick plush you picked creep
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oh yeah that one yeah creep that's right sorry plush is at least more that's more electric more fun yeah creep was absolutely a bore Fest you rank the
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whole thing you go man if I have to hear creep one more time give me wet my bed yeah that's what you okay in this
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situation I'm looking at the very obvious answer and I have to challenge myself on the very obvious answer here
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is pretty penny they tried a new thing I don't think they did it
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great but my least favorite on this album is meatplow whoa that is that is
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the worst of the best on this album I think they kicked it off wrong I told
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you I didn't like the title I told you I thought it was like one of these remnants of the mid90s where things were
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referred to as you're talking about your man meat this and that I it never
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appealed to me at the age of 10 it doesn't appear to appeal to me in my 30s this was sort of the thing that I think
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Scott was supposed to be going against referring to his junk in some euphemistic term and uh I never saw it
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as a sexual thing honestly until your discussion about it everybody that talks about what a meat plow could be puts it
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in those terms I've never had a conversation with anyone about what it would honestly till this till you and I talked well I appreciate being the first
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one that you talk to about these things but I don't think that you should assume that that you're the the first one that I talk to
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about I'm glad you've talked about me plows with other men uh all right PLS any instance that I can well that is
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awesome okay well I appreciate that I appreciate you drew and I appreciate your humor and your wit and your
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research well remember in front of every Silver Lining there's a cloud and we're here to help you find it thanks so much
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Drew take care brother what a beautiful beautiful wrap up to our convo about
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purple I'll talk to you next year probably yeah cheers brother bye [Music]
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gam Gator Productions [Music]