The Worst of the Best Podcast

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welcome to the worst of the best podcast you wanted the best well they didn't
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freak him make it so here's what you get from Canada and Florida Ryan and Drew
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all right welcome everyone to the worst of the best podcast I am your host and with me again for an unprecedented
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eighth time is just right through eighth time your guest hosting no I don't keep
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track that's your job ok ho boy then we're in trouble ok well it's it's more than three under ten I think that's fair to say there's
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an equation that will give us the answer but you know it's a Sunday I'm gonna relax on the math today perfect yeah
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happy Sunday to you my friend happy Florida you're so lucky to have that Sun and warmth we're still got snow in the
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forecast if you open it up for me to brag I will gladly sitting at 76 degrees
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right now spent a good hour and a half at the pool doing absolutely nothing shoveled zero snow today
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grapes zero windshields today it's just generally enjoying my time here in
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paradise but how are the crazy people in Florida I mean you gotta get shovel the crazy people at the sidewalk judging by
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some of these lists that we look at and some of these topics that you bring up there's in the ubiquitous presence of
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Florida people on these lists doing very silly things I think the one that we're
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talking about now is less dominated than previous lists but nevertheless Florida
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does have a presence on any list about unreasonable people unreasonable people
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I like that Florida began try to be nice actually Florida the state of the unreasonable
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people that's on your license plate we have a lot of different variations of license plates there's actually a manatee on my license plate I'm very
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happy about it up there in Canada are you familiar with a manatee the animal of a manatee they're not the anteaters
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are they or no what a moose that swims maybe oh right yes yes you there yeah often very
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friendly winds up getting into losing fights with boats of all shapes and sorts or oh boy and that's a manatee
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that's on my license plate right now oh nice yeah today we're gonna do the 10 worst license plates with manatees on
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them oh don't okay people are gonna turn off the F so very quickly if that's the topic and a way to make it entertaining
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Ryan we tend to do this that's true that's true I just want to apologize for the background noise and my chaotic
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house it's daytime so the kid are up you'll hit them scream and yell and fight and my poor wife has to take
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care of all that so if you do hear that in the background dear listeners just be mindful that I don't have a soundproof
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studio nor I I'm gonna ask you to excuse me for a second I have to close this door so that our cat doesn't interrupt
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the podcast okay ready to go today's topic is the top ten most unhinged
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cafeteria workers do you work somewhere right now where there's a cafeteria no
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no I do not my current situation is working within a law firm that since strip-mall kind of situation so there
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are food establishments but they are in different buildings that run by different companies no I I can't
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remember the last time I worked in a place that had an office cafeteria that's that's not so common for my line
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of business all right so we're gonna be talking about some unhinged unreasonable type people who work in a cafeteria and
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some of the things that they have done while employed these are all school cafeteria workers is that your
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understanding I think I think they're all school related I there is one that isn't I think but for the most part for
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the most part school cafeteria workers again I don't want to correlate cafeteria workers with with an education
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or mental health issues but all of you did you just run that on yourself maybe
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this is the only ten disturbing people in the world that have worked in a cafeteria so let's find out we could be
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looking at the top ten out of ten but either way we're gonna pick the worst that's how we do this right this is the one that if you were in the cafeteria at
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the time which one would you want to experience the least is that how we're gonna play the game okay it's something
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like we're on different ways about it all right there's no real rules we're in the cafeteria at the time would you want
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to experience so even if it wasn't happening to you you wouldn't want to be a bystander that's what you're saying
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maybe a competition of are you a patron of the cafeteria or does your kid go to that school maybe something like that or
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just that just in general which one is the most disgusting or worst cafeteria episode you know what it's your choice
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it in your reasons are yours alone so they're gonna match this out in like 35 37 minutes we're really gonna figure
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this out right now you talked about the manatee do you know what a marsupial is I'm
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familiar with the marsupial here in the southern United States we only have one it's called a awesome awesome horse yeah
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we've got a possum in Florida and in my home state of Ohio familiar with possums
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I believe that's the only marsupial in our part of North America what about you well it I did know as kangaroos and this
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is now the story of a Nebraska Panhandle school and Potter this individual was
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fired after he mixed questionable ingredients in the chili that he made for the students in October 2018 so his
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name is Kevin Frey and he had the bright idea to augment the Chili's beef so replace the beef with none other than
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kangaroo meat kangaroo means kangaroo beef now people do we kangaroo yeah I've
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had it have you yes I have when I was actually in astray I was in Australia in 2018 about the same time this happened I
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actually was actually in Australia no I you're sharing the same batch of kangaroo is what you're telling me it
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doesn't say here how he got a hold of the kangaroo I don't know where to buy any yeah I would assume they'd have to
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special order it and live it in North America I've been to a place called a fish camp in Jacksonville Florida they
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serve can't and grew regularly on the menu I went there three four times I thought I can't go three four times and
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not try the kangaroo once so I had it how do you recall it being served right
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well it was on a plate oh they give T on a plate yeah not in Jacksonville Florida
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okay the meat had a little bit of a jump to it though okay it was served to me is
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almost like a hamburger patty sorry did did I deliver that so dry that you didn't know was joking I convinced
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myself it was a Canadian ISM that I just I just didn't wrap my head around yeah you just slipped that one right past me
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okay a little bit of a hop I've had it served with the teriyaki sauce oh and
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there you go that sort of a glaze this individual mr. Frey he was fired for doing this and
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students did begin to feel ill after this chili was made I don't think hey
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rube meat itself makes you sick but it could just be that their digestive tracts being North American kids they
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might not be used to that type of meat but kangaroo meat in of itself is not poisonous who knows if he had prepared
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it correctly yes you know if it was ready to be inserted into the chili or if he just assumed that it was the same
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as the ground beef in Nebraska from what I know of Nebraska having driven through
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it I don't know if they have a great food variety in Nebraska or in the cafeterias of Nebraska
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so yeah this may have been an instance of people's working themselves into a frenzy about this oh my goodness I ate
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kangaroo and you manufacture some symptoms perhaps here and there yeah we got fired yeah you got fired in any sort
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of improper addition to the kids nutrition is like in America these things are governed by the federal
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government or whatever what kids eat at schools this is why pizza is technically a vegetable and different things like
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that we have guidelines about what we feed children and the schools as they should as they should that was number 10
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on our list so I'll move on to do number nine this one is a bit more gruesome and a bit more exotic
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there was a cafeteria worker at what what is called Barnstable high school in I'm gonna butcher this Hyannis
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Massachusetts there's probably a different pronunciation for that but anyways she was using the vegetable
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slicer one day as one does when using a vegetable slicer to prepare children's
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meals little things can get in the way cause bigger problems in the case of this woman her thumb got in the way it
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didn't take long for the thumb to come clean off spring blood everywhere all over the kitchen all over the vegetables
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as you can imagine that was a problem in and of itself but I believe that the
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kitchen workers on this particular shift thought that they had had it under control they clean the slicing machine
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they got rid of the bloodiest of the vegetables and did they continue prepping for lunch fast forward to the
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following day and what do you think happened little Kyle bit into a finger need thoroughness
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and complete attention to detail of the cafeteria workers on the previous day
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was lacking in at least this one sense they did not get all the pieces of the
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thumb and the thumb wound up in a little girl's mouth the spokeswoman for the
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Massachusetts Department of Health later reassured the public the blood borne diseases cannot be transmitted
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through food I suppose that all goes to say if the food being served was human
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body part that's where this story leaves us a woman losing a thumb and a little
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girl gaining it you know it adds a whole new meaning to finger food that's right
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that is right I got that one right yeah you are appropriately dumbing these
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things down for me and I appreciate it greatly but that is kind of ironic that
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the thing which was lost was the only thing that no one thought to say hey did anyone you know find a digit they
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thought they had done everything they thought they had very completely gonna
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solve this problem and yet none of them thought to really put the puzzle pieces together and identify whether or not
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they had gotten all of the pieces right crazy that is crazy okay poor girl poor
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girl now this next one isn't just one story number eight that this one is kind of a few examples of how cafeteria
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workers to one degree or another have skimmed cash over the counter I know
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this kind of practice happens throughout all businesses everywhere but it might be I guess easier to do maybe add on a
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cafeteria or school type system so we have an example here of Alma Julia
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Rodriguez 52 of Butler elementary school in Arlington Texas she was taken into
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custody after it came to light that she had stolen up to 30 grand skimming cash off the top of the counter so to speak
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like when kids paid for food or however she did if you would she's still up to 30 grand doing this surprisingly her
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efforts were undermined when these two sisters from New Canaan Connecticut is there another Connecticut did we talk about Connecticut or
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no we've talked about Nebraska and Massachusetts okay okay so new Canon
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Connecticut for 2012 to 2017 the 61 and
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now 67 year old sisters they funneled the four hundred and seventy eight
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thousand dollars from two schools by pocketing the cash of children when do
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you think someone would have questioned anything about their lifestyles well yeah well that was over a five-year
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period let me just do the math really quick here I'm just going to do the math real quick so four hundred seventy eight well let's say four seventy nine really cuz it's
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479 divided by two so that's each look to 40 each 240 divided by five
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will give us a year so yearly they got forty-eight thousand dollars each unfortunately I believe that that
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problem in addition to their cafeteria worker salary that probably put them
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right above the poverty line Oh easily yeah yeah so right just right there in
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the middle class good for them so they were eventually caught when the school
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installed new software however they pled innocent in court to all charges and you
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can read about that article if you want by Google in their names but lastly if five hundred thousand isn't enough money
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there's always North Spring highs former cafeteria manager Brenda Watts and in January 2014 Watts was fired by
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the Fulton County School District of Georgia after her profitable long-running scheme tallied roughly one
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point three five million over a fifteen to twenty year period that one strikes
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me as pretty incredible you have to be very unsupervised to be able to run a
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cash-only Lane for how many years 15 to 20 yes yes a slow crime is senseiess
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it's a twenty year period so 1.3 million is obviously a lot of money but it's that skimming from the top you know
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where it's just it reminds me of when I was a kid my dad he loved ice cream and
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rightfully so now that I'm speaking as a father you know when you work hard you get to have things that your kids don't
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get to have parents don't have to give everything to their kids just you know you work hard you can have something
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that your kids don't have much so my dad was an ice-cream fanatic at the very least we weren't allowed to have ice cream from the freezer without
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permission so even if it was just my dad's let's say or his special ice cream we as children were not allowed to eat
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ice cream fell permission and what we used to do is we used to skim from the top itself how we figured as young
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children was if we just took a little layer even layer from the top that or
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whatever shape my dad had created in the ice cream bucket we would just keep that
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same shape but just lower the volume a little bit it seemed to work either my
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dad never noticed or he didn't care but that being said over a 15 to 20 year
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period of doing this in theory I could eat a lot of ice cream that's how this worked here she skimmed no more than
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$500 a day by doing this she was able to skim just enough over 15 20 years they just it didn't raise enough eyebrows for
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people just like oh you know I guess we just didn't have the money we thought we had but she got away with it for that long somebody was not keeping enough i
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I'm probably one of the lowest paid employees in the school so you think to
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yourself how many resources are we going to dedicate to a resource that we already don't dedicate very many
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resources to because I let her leave her to her own devices and this is what you wind up with all right we got 4/7 number
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7 number 7 is is a little bit different than stealing lunch money from children
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this is a woman who got a little exhausted with some troublesome children
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in 2017 authorities were notified in the Cumberland County of Pennsylvania that
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there was a young man with an abrasion on his neck and according to reports
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there was a lunch lady a 66 year old lunch lady no less who was
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allowing her frustrating to get the best of her while she was scanning kids lunch cards trying to get payment for their
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meals now I don't know how this particular school does their lunch payment process there were all different
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methods in the 90s when I was growing up about how you were going to get that plate of food whether or not you were on
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some sort of a special program or you pay cash for it or it was just assumed to be free or what have you
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anyways this woman was upset with scanning the cards she was found to vent
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her anger by yanking on the lanyards of the children possibly the lanyards that
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also contained the cards as she was trying to swipe on the not sure but these were very young children seven and
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eight year old children she was pulling on the strings that were you know around their necks not exactly professional behavior here
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even if you do fall into something of a senior citizen category like our friend Agnes there was a similar incident to
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this that occurred in Connecticut so here's another Connecticut one where a 53 year old woman named Cynthia attacked
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a child at lunch time in 2018 after shoving him while he was waiting in line
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for food this woman Cynthia also came back to assault the kid at the end of
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his lunch hour so she clearly had some time to chill out about whatever it was
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that occurred between her and this 11 year old child she had some time to think about it and she decided no I
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gotta go back for one more Cynthia was no-nonsense head back and
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forced him to fall out of his seat oh this is not the first time that she had
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unleashed her fury on children previously she had been reported for grabbing a girl by the neck again after
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this girl was supposed to get out of Cynthia's way and she didn't I'm just imagining Cynthia was a large woman I
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know II told her [ __ ] out of her way that's what I'm imagining here she was later also charged with risk of injury
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to a child and second-degree breach of the peace I'm not from Cumberland County
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Pennsylvania but I do love breach of the peace as a fiscal charge what's another
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example of breach of peace breach if these could be like an inciting a riot or something it's it's different things
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in different jurisdictions but in this jurisdiction they still charge people with reach of peace which is very I
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would just say nebulous term right anything that an officer didn't like that you did and he was
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there to uphold the peace and you've reached it the school pool that this
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woman Cynthia was working for was already under scrutiny because there was another teacher that was fired because
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she organized her students to engage in slap fights slap fights in school there
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were a lot of allegations that the principal and the vice-principal were either ignoring or they were also
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engaging in this sort of abuse as well that school itself was more indicative
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of a problem than the cafeteria lady but those are our stories stories of cafeteria ladies beating up small
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children if my wife had found out that her kid was hit by a wall by anybody but
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let alone like the school lunch later haven't helped at school they don't barricade the doors because she's gonna
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come in and she will kick the crap out of any woman that does that or any man I'm telling you right now it'd almost be
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fun to watch quite frankly I like your wife more and I want to organize a podcast
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her and I to chat about things at anytime in the near future
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she's amazing she she's a no-nonsense you do not hurt my kid typer and I know
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a lot of parents are but I'm just surprised I don't hear in conjunction with the story about that happening
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about the parents coming down and literally stormy the hallways saying bring her out now it seems like it would
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happen more they would you just have to take things in your own hands you are putting these people and the most
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trusted position that you'd ever put anything right yeah people mess with your children a long a long time during
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the day and you have to believe that they are behaving trusts worthily and if they are not taken into your own hands
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I agree all right so here we go the next one number six is drug-related these are
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a couple of incidences where cafeteria workers sold and gave drugs to kids so
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in 2017 after-school activities were abruptly cut short for Philadelphia cafeteria worker Robert Lumpkin the 31
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year old was taken into custody after he was Vardhan surveillance videos selling marijuana to students at George Washington High School not that big of a
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deal but how about some crystal meth two kids this was done by Deanna Hatley of
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Charlotte North Carolina working out of her vehicle Halle was arrested following a raid on her warm and welcoming meth
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lab which was her car that to me is his insane that she had a meth lab in her
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vehicle and she's handing out crystal meth children well what danger could
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there possibly be in having a rolling meth lab so my children at all times and
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then lastly in Muncie Indiana 53 year-old Sandra Howard a lot of females
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say was busted after selling $40 worth of hydrocodone pills to an undercover
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officer in the parking lot at North Side middle school what about the undercover officer reminds me of 21 Jump Street did
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you ever watch the TV show 21 Jump Street I did not watch the TV show no I watched the two movies with the Channing
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Tatum and Jonah Hill okay's were I believe pretty accurate representations of a reincarnation of
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that series I'd like those what I like here is exactly what you said one of
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these occurred in a middle school parking lot yeah which speaks to me that the undercover
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officer was portraying a middle schooler are you familiar with middle school do
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you know how old middle school is yeah it doesn't say that I you could argue could be a staff member okay so they
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could the undercover officer could have been portraying a staff yeah I'll tell you Ryan I like my version much better
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sorry come on I like the idea of an undercover officer portraying what I what I have to say is like an 11 year
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old yeah that's why I think it's a staff member however 21 Jump Street yeah they
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were undercover police officers portraying high school students and yeah that was the premise believable enough
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but going down to 11 or 12 years old and I'm not humorous so discussing
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behavior though I don't really find it surprising no not surprising you have to
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ask yourself and growing up where are the kids that do the drugs where are
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they eating it well where is it coming from one out of ten or one out of 20
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probably getting it from one of the people that they walk by in the hallway every day it's just how many people do
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you know when you're in middle school you don't move this many people to know a whole lot of drug dealers so it has to
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be sort of an inside job so to speak this is not that unbelievable and all these a couple of great examples when
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was the last time you bought crystal meth from a cafeteria room huh it's been a while you know I've had to clean up my
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acts as I became a family man so I understand you got that expunged from your record you can't talk about it
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that's true history I can't reveal that on air oh it's so gross so gross I don't
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know how people do it all right ready for number five number five is another set of several stories
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that are wrapped up you sort of have these themes about cafeteria workers behaving badly and this one is with
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regard to love or some ones interpretation of it what we have here
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are stories about teachers well not teachers but cafeteria workers who were known to fornicate with their students I
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love the word fornicate quite honestly great word is good right word is
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immediately know what it's about but it's not as explicit as any of the other
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words that refer to those things right we talked about here a 32 year old named
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joy from hillside Illinois in 2015 she was arrested for having sex with a 16
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year old in the school parking lot during school hours to everyone's surprise they found out
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about it because the dude bragged about it later that thing oh yeah easily he's
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six year old boy of course he is best day of his life by far he actually worked at the hospital afterwards is
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that right his wrist was spraying from all the high fives I am lying with these jokes you are too
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good to me it's continued after joy had her a really really good time we found
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out about a 40 year old old named Amy exchanged more than a hundred text
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messages what we would call sex with a student at Hernando Christian Academy
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before she took it to the next level and a romantic setting fit for a movie
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Amy invited her highschool lover to meet her in our office which was the school's
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kitchen where they make the food to serve to the people oh man yeah yeah our
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last story comes from war our second-to-last story comes from Janelle she's a mother of four in Massachusetts
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she was actually charged with statutory rape after she was found with a 15 year
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old boy I know a similar story happened with a 42 year old named lawanda at
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Dutch Fork middle school she was caught with a 13 year-old boy
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and then there's Stacey st. Jean she served up a daily special with multiple
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students at her cafeteria in Washington High was a great other stories that are
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gruesome or sort of not fit for everyday consumption but here's one that I know
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will surprise people Monica then a co I don't know if this can be excused in any
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way shape or form at the Charlotte County school she was allegedly
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molesting a five-year-old yeah the disc I've seen and again not
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surprising that we're here we hear stories of adults male or and/or female obviously working with children and
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taking advantage of those trusting situations it's heartbreaking heartbreaking I ask you unfortunately
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based off of what we've heard here I made it a point to throw these things out we've got joy we've got a me
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we've got Janelle and Monica why were there no man on this list well I think
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it's just the nature of the job of a cafeteria worker I think it's just female dominated I
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I would just always suspect that the majority of cafeteria workers and those
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who serve the food in the cafeteria is it kind of worked the front line of cafeteria work are probably female but
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as we know males are certainly here well we know there are no exception to the
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causing this kind of damage to students throughout the schools of the world when
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it comes to promiscuous behavior I think you're right and I think that it's just important to throw that in here
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with what we have going on it is worth noting or seeing here your explanation
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is exactly what I would say it's just the sort of industry where yeah I don't know the numbers but if you saw them
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you'd probably remark okay any list involving people from this industry would be female dominated and that's the
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nature of it right all right so number four due to recurrent gun violence newest schools
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threats of potential shootings are taken seriously with no room for error or
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laxity such as was the case in 2018 at Phil's burg Middle School in New Jersey
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after classes were cut short following threats made by a cafeteria employee just know this is what happened boasting
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on social media that she planned okay I can't I just can't believe she did this on social media or anywhere but it was
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she she boasts it on social media that she planned to stab students run them over with her car poison their food and
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blow up the school not necessarily that order cafeteria worker Jennifer Newell
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was merely dismissed from working in any school district building that was her punishment subsequent to an
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investigation and increased police presence authorities ultimately concluded that there was no immediate
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danger to the students so this was just somebody who got fired for saying these things on social media I'm not sure if
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that would be the reaction these days this is 2018 again I'm not sure if that
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would be the reaction these days mmm 2018 is pre parkland 2018
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it's pre everything that happened last August when there were many in a day true unfortunately that might not have
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gotten the same reaction today but there's more other threats were made by a cafeteria worker in Connecticut and
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these were taking much theirs seriously after making comments to a co-worker that he was going to shoot up the school
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69 year-old Leslie male delani was arrested on school grounds
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specifically the disturbed individuals stated to his co-worker that he should run his coworker if he ever saw Delaney
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in his army fatigue so basically the 69 year old told his co-worker look if you ever see me coming to the school wearing
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an army fatigues run away so you don't get hurt because if that happened he would be armed with that ak-47 to quote
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finish everything and then off himself when police arrived at the Newark High
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School they discovered a 22 caliber rifle in the trunk of his car but it wasn't loaded and had no ammunition
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anywhere to be found but Delaney was charged with possession of a weapon on school grounds as you should be as well
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as making threats and breaching the peace there it is again what I think about this when I hear this is on yeah
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they found a gun that had no bullets and the threat that this guy made was so
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tenuous and it exaggerated right he said if you ever see me dressed in army
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fatigues with an angry look on my face and it looks like I might have a gun underneath my shirt well yeah that's
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what I'm here for to do I think you put so many so many caveats in there that he
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almost made it seem like you will never see me doing this thing because of all these coordinated simulation that's why
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this is not a real threat or an actionable threat you ever see me driving drunk blaring Def Leppard pullin up screeching
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tires you better know I'm in for business right and it's gotta be okay I'll never
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see you in that situation so that isn't really a threat but this guy got called on his and there this was kind of interest in this
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last one here again talking about gun violence against kids from cafeteria workers this is from coal Township
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Pennsylvania she took her and built-up agitation a step further irritated at the children
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plane across the street from her home Marie McWilliams decided to unload a BB
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gun on the kids firing multiple shots toward the playground the lunch lady for
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the Sham oak in Area School District assured a distressed parent and being
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facetious of course this BB gun shooting lady said if I don't get the kids now I
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will get them tomorrow fortunately that wonderful experience never came to
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fruition as big Willie was found herself at the back of a patrol car that evening this one seems different than the others
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you see why well she was actually shooting the BB gun and that parent was upset with her as she goes well don't
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worry I'll I'll get them again tomorrow so this definitely shows that she's gonna keep doing this and it might escalate well it also shows that she's
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doing it in her downtime right this is not on the job this is not on the job this is not even targeted at necessarily
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kids that go to her school right we don't even know that it was true doesn't know that when she gets off work she
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doesn't want kids playing on the playground across the street I don't know why she considers that to be her
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business but she wants some peace and quiet she doesn't want to deal with children outside of her work where she
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deals with children the fact that she's a cafeteria worker is a sidebar to the fact shoots children at playgrounds look
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kids are annoying okay the worst the in the yard I've raised six to them I'm raising like four right now two are
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adults but I still got four to go and I love them but they can be annoying and they can be agitating it times out by a hundred you got 400 kids it's it's
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overwhelming and you have to be a special kind of good person to not be negatively affected I would guarantee
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this girl or this lady who is doing the BB gun shooting it is kind of connected
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because she works with kids all day and the driver up the wall and she wants to go home to have some peace and quiet and all she hears his more kids playing like
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just she in her mind she's like shot yep yeah not condoning the behavior I'm
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just explaining it no it sounds like you you are in her head that you understand
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her motivations that give him the chance you would do the same thing that sounds like to me oh darn it you gobby
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alright go with number three before I get more trouble I really love number
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three because number three is the sort of thing that as someone who knows nothing about science or I you know
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cannot really believe that that I would trust my own understanding of science to
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do anything to hurt someone else this is something hilarious to me so really this
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is the story of poison out of Norwood North Carolina where there were two
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cafeteria staff person 2011 who came up with a plan to poison their supervisor
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64 year old named Eileen a 38 year old named Angela they put cleaning solution
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in their managers tea during school hours so they said how we gonna get this
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woman she's making us do too much work or you know working too hard or too long
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we are going to poison this woman turns out that the victim got wind of the plot
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and alerted the authorities after detectives got involved the two women
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were arrested for distributing food containing poison instead of you know
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attempted murder that's crazy could argue if he had a good defense lawyer they just wanted it to cause her
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pain it wasn't enough poison to Krait death is it maybe their argument and maybe there wasn't enough poison and
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maybe they thought they would try to kill but it's like if I thought sour milk and little small doses could kill
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you and I put in your tea every day when I served you breakfast but it doesn't kill somebody do I go away for murder even though that
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was my tenth but what I'm doing to you can't kill you there are two parts of this and I believe that you have
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satisfied the mens rea a' comportment there's also the activist ray
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which you never would have accomplished your goal had you set out to do it and done it effectively for a hundred years
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running right so the impossibility of your act would have been a very good thing for the defense lawyer to latch on
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to do we think that Ilene and Angela knew how much poison would hurt her but
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not kill her do we think that they had that sort of training likely not probably not yeah game time
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interestingly enough the plan that was in that school that these two woman were
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like sort of widely-publicized who had been caught for doing this plan of poisoning their boss and their te that
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got around the school and guess what an 18 year old a couple of weeks later
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decided to put some cleaning solution into his teachers soda can did the 18
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year old know how much cleaning solution to put in the coke can or not likely not
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he wound up sending his teacher to the hospital she had some lesions in her throat and she lost consciousness but
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she was okay and he was charged with a misdemeanor assault on a school employee
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I found that to be so interesting people who do not understand science
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undertaking science experiments in real time I think the guy were they deserved I mean the other day nobody got killed
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they got sick always ending with cleaning supplies - I guess these things are available and we know that sometimes
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people are silly enough to ingest them and that's why there's all these warnings and we always say why does it
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need to be a billboard sized warning on the poor ox bottle who decided to drink
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this stuff but I guess this is why we have those things alright this next one number two is it does get a little bit
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dark so if you are violent crime is not your thing it's a little bit a little
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bit violent in lomographic but my reading and talking of it is not if that makes sense I'll try to be my kindness
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and nicest voice I talk about something that happened in Singapore it was a Singapore cafeteria this is not I don't
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think a school cafeteria but involves some co-workers who worked at the cafeteria bo soon-ho became acquainted
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with fellow employee Zhang who Zhang the friendship quickly flourished the two met outside of work for meals as
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shopping all the expense of the male beau though he called Shang his princess
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Zhang Jiang and considered her his girlfriend four years passed with this friendship without a spark of romance
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let alone a kiss so basically he viewed her aussi he was in love with her but
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she was not in love with him and it should be noted that she is 28 and he
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was 48 then in early 2016 beau discovered that he was nothing more than
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a cash machine to his princess that she was sleeping with two other men she had
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two other boyfriends or men that she had relations with but he was not one of those two so on March 21st 2016 beau
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disheartened of course invited Zhang to his place for a lunch date now when his
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attempts at this quote-unquote date to have sex with a 28 year old were rejected beau strangled her to death
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with a towel while noticing her face was turning dark as he carried her lifeless
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body to his shed he told himself since and this is from his own words since she
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had died and I had never seen her naked before I should undress her so after
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removing her clothes and taking pictures of her new body both and attempted to have sex with the course but he was
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unable to perform sexually so yeah instead he spent the night sleeping next
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to the dead body before fleeing to his home country of Malaysia the following day thankfully two weeks later beau was
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arrested while eating dinner at a restaurant he was extradited to Singapore and he faces life imprisonment
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or death if he's soon to be convicted of this murder Wow
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I can't put into words how glad I am that you got to tell that story yeah I know when I got but I got the assignment
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I read by of course my Simon I was like oh my yeah and there are a lot of true
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crying podcasts out there and sometimes on the topics that we cover it does delve into true crime there's been a
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couple of true crime episodes I do want to do in the future and I might have to do a little disclaimer because our podcast doesn't usually go into that
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territory it's a little bit light-hearted for the most but this is a definitely a story where I did want to give a little bit of like oh
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just FYI it gets a little graphic because a necrophilia has evolved a murder and all that good stuff or attempted necrophilia actually I learned
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on a TV show yesterday true that necrophilia isn't just sex with a dead body it's actually this as well it's
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just any kind of closeness with the dead body that provides whatever necrophilia is a spectrum I was gonna ask you and I
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you've already answered it will you be willing to be the necrophilia expert for
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this podcast yes I accept that role and I also at this point turned down the
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role and I'm never gonna hopefully talk about it again this yeah this guy you get you kind of get that cuz it's so
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creepy engrossed because he's been trying to be with this girl forever and it's just it's really gross because it's
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like oh well she's dead I can take off her clothes now see what she looks like naked like that just to me is this Wow and I am a philosophy major and I am
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well-trained in theories of moral relativity this tests the method or test
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the theory we like to believe that because we are not Singaporean that we
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can't really judge that behavior we can't understand it from within we have
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not walked in those shoes and we don't understand that culture well enough but to think that this sort of behavior
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would be well obviously does not consider it acceptable within the Singaporean jurisdictions throw the book
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at them because this seems to be the most excusable Act now I know we're
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coming up with our own judgments on which is the worst of this list I'm not sure if you included the most
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inexcusable act as one of our factors I cannot familiarize with anything that
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happened in this story it's just grotesque as you described it yeah I hope you and I are both on the same page
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that we we we can't fathom ever participated these kind of activities all right well let's go with number one
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that's you that's yours and I haven't made my mind up yet we'll get to that but maybe number one will tell something
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here don't make your mind up until I tell you about worst teachers in Florida there you go
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Florida we finally got to Florida we bounced around the north carolina's the Massachusetts the Connecticut's the
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singapore's we finally come to a story about two workers in a cafeteria in Florida in 1993 there were 500 students
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in the cafeteria that were finishing their lunches and a commotion broke out in this cafeteria kitchen after lunch
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had been served the commotion was related to an argument and I'm not kidding you here
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this argument was about how to best fry chicken and these two people this would
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be Carol and Michelle who were sinless Lee arguing about frying chicken 22
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year-old Michelle grabbed a very large knife this has always been my problem
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with kitchens heated arguments about frying chicken they just occur far too close to large
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knifes do you agree running yeah or even worse the fried oil started reading this story
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I thought this was a fried oil story and I got very excited right I'd rather be stabbed with speaking of stabbed
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Michelle stabbed Carol in the chest in the middle
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of their Fried Chicken debate as carol was lying on the ground dying no one
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else in the cafeteria decided to make any moves somebody actually quoted was
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saying it was a large knife and I think everyone just kind of took a step back from it this is heroism in the modern
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age yeah well if there is that moment yes your brand's processes so that doesn't happen very often wouldn't you
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were anywhere when's the last time someone was stabbed in front of you I cannot even recall yeah must've been
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very long ago exactly so unless you're a trained professional to deal with violence there's a part of you that yeah
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you're protecting yourself a little bit like okay well someone just got stabbed with that knife that person is stabbing some do I just jump in and place myself
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between with that and the knife there is a part of you that it's in our human nature to survive it's not that you
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don't care about the person who's being stabbed you're like well what can I do you I think our friend Matt Damon would have
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known what to do yeah so that's what I mean he's a trained professional to fight hand-to-hand combat I know also
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depends who is getting set obviously if it's a family member or something like that oh yeah I'm there in a heartbeat like I'd be there instinctively it's
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like that's family if it's a complete stranger you might step back and say okay what's happening does the other person have a knife maybe they just
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haven't had a knife fight and you know you never know what's going on but to say it was a large knife and I just took
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a step back well sure there's probably at the best quote you know the person who might have been thinking as well I
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took a step back because I didn't know what to do I die you know this person is in a rage swinging the knife around it
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very easily get caught up in that fight and be killed yourself oh absolutely and to be an innocent bystander that's where
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it takes a hit so you're saying that you don't ascribe to the theory that the quoted here was actually teen Michelle
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how many co-workers were there now they all said everybody on the person now that'd be different right yeah yes one
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of a concerted effort this was the deal that resulted in Carol's murder
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well boy she actually moved to the hospital but she eventually did die on the operating table
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Michelle was convicted of second-degree murder and sentenced to 15 years in prison she was released six years later
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there's your story out of Florida are your thoughts well I was going to say when she was in jail I wonder how she
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reacted the first time she was served fried chicken in the cafeteria lineup whether or not it was up to her
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specifications or not can you imagine she's eating the chicken at the table
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the warden Institute fried chicken all day every day for that jail from that
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six year time what do you give the headline run down to Beach one and then we'll make our picks do a little rundown
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so we so we've discussed several different sometimes categories but usually individual people that Duke wild
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and wacky things as cafeteria workers number ten was the cafeteria worker in Nebraska who served kangaroo to his
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students number nine was the cafeteria worker in Massachusetts who lost a thumb
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then the cafeteria proceeded to keep serving food and eventually a young girl
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ate the number eight was a series of stories about usually elderly women who wound up
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stealing cash from their students who would go through different lines that
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required them to hand over cash in lieu of swipe the card or some sort of a free lunch and they would pocket that cash
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some of them pocketing up to 1.3 5 million dollars in the ones and fives
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number 7 was a story of cafeteria workers who were known to abused their
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students which included yanking on lanyards around their neck or pushing them out of their seats urging them to
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engage in slap fights number six was cafeteria workers who were known to sell
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drugs to their students or sell drugs to undercover officers posing as their
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students or as Ryan pointed out possibly other school workers number five
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cafeteria students who made love with their students this doesn't carry over
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into number two which is a later story of trying to make love number four is cafeteria students who unleashed gun
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violence on their students or threatened gun violence on their students or their
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co-workers in the form of threats or actionable engagements number three
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would be since cafeteria workers who attempt to poison people and this was the story of a couple of women in North
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Carolina who attempted that and then a student who could copycat at that idea number two was Ryan's favorite story on
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this podcast so far his story of crime and passion and Singapore necrophilia of which he is now an expert
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different things that led to the death of a 28 year old cafeteria worker in
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Singapore and the number one was Florida women getting into a fight about fried chicken one of them being stabbed
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several times and dying on the operating table to me the worse the sexual assault
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on minors in a story everyone else is in adults really in the drugs you can get away with accidentally and a thumb
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whatever serving kangaroo meat whatever the gun violence which resulted in really couple kids getting with the BB
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gun whatever they'll recover but not to steer your worse or what your
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reasons are but my reason is the last impact that sexual assault has on minors from many adult that to me is the most
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despicable behavior or worse story yes the the murder sure but those are two
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adults unfortunately was a 20 year old I got killed and for better for worse she
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no longer lives with the drunk the trauma of that death but the children could live you know with the memory of
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especially the five year old boy I mean that was kind of this thrown in there didn't they just throw that in there and
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they push it right over the edge yeah cuz the other ones were the kids were a little bit older I get and there's no I'm not gonna sit here and say but even
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one of them was thirteen years old so yeah yeah their kids their kids I mean
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I've got a thirteen year old son and if anyone did that to him and he I would just be losing my mind so that's my
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worst that's my worst is the adults having relations with with minors I can
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understand why you would say that and that was certainly it's just hard to read at times right and not anything
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that you want to think about too much as much as you love the story about Singapore that that's my least favorite that one gets it in this a murky
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territory as much as these other lists deal with cafeteria workers preying on children or doing things within the
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scope of their employment this one is an outlier in that it's just
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a sketchy romance a one-sided kind of deal it could be made into a movie
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probably it's just not anything that I think matches up with the others I find
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inconsistent and I find it go testy alright well there you go thanks everyone and thank you for listening
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remember in front of every silver lining there's a cloud and we're here to help
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you find it thanks drew with a star coming on I hope to have you on again it would be a pleasure thank you
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