The Worst of the Best Podcast

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I'm really excited to say that my brother Jason came on and we recorded a
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faith in the more episode of the worst of the best podcast the discussion was
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so big and so fast that it does not fit into one episode so this is part one of
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that discussions so this recording ends sort of abruptly because during the recording we didn't know that it's going
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to be a two-parter we made that decision near the end of what will be part two
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just wanted to thank my brother again for coming on and guest hosting and I can assume we'll hear a lot more of my
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brother Jason in the future a worthy successor to my brother Ruben I would
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say here you go part one Faith No More [Music] welcome to the worst of the best podcast
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you wanted the best well they didn't freak him naked so here's what you get
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from Canada Ryan at Jason [Applause]
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welcome everyone to the worst of the best podcasts I'm very excited today
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because with me I have my brother now don't get too excited Ruben has not come back I have three
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brothers and this is my other brother Jason Jason welcome to the show Thank
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You Ryan happy to be here happy to talk about faith no more I just want everybody know that Ruben has way more
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podcast experience than I do and more specifically he does have a face for podcasting more than I do
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so yeah so to be fair rubes got a face for podcasting yeah I don't
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but Jason it's a privilege and honor to speak with you because a you're my brother and of course we have a shared
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interest as I do with Ruben and many of the subjects that we cover when you asked me hey Ryan I know you needed some
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guests co-hosting can I come on the show and you acted a little a little miffed
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that I hadn't approached you earlier yeah well I felt a little left out aloha a little stung you never left out as it
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is with ribbon as it is with you or all my family family the blood is thicker than water you guys anyone that's listening that is
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my relative you always have an invitation to come on the show and Jason though is also a listener of the podcast
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so this is good I'm one of the I'm one of the two well so there's now we've
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just taken away another download you're not gonna like one yeah you'll get one
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download mom hey I so loved you River does it listen to the show can you blame
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him um no hide I don't I I'm always surprised anyone does and to those listeners those few and far between the
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do listen to the worst of the best podcast I do thank you for listening and I suspect we'll get but a bit of a bump
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with this episode because of the worst of the best podcast episodes and I'll give a bit of behind the curtain here
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the musical ones are quite popular they're the highest downloads or four in generally the the music ones have been
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the highest downloads not every band but of the top five downloaded episodes they're all music related topics
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it kind of goes all sane my music is huge in the culture of the world the bands that we've covered have tens of
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millions of album sales and I would suspect some of those people listen to podcasts music always lends to a great
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conversation people are either emotionally attached to a song or a band it takes them back to places in their
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life that they like to reflect on how else to get through tough times helps amplify the good times as well so yeah
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the music it just runs through our lives from from when we're young whether it's
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learning the alphabet or into our adulthood and we can enjoy you know music throughout our whole life so yeah
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I could understand why your music ones are more popular than the others and the second place is our conspiracy ones well
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probably just make this a conspiracy a conspiracy slash music up so oh if you combine the two yeah oh yes the
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Illuminati is involved in both of them that's why they're popular right best truth luminaries just all throughout the
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music industry pushing their agenda of course it's official heads to the
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conspiracy that's right no offense to Illuminati but you know piss or get off the pot control of the world really
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thousand-year game plan for to wedded to control the world but I'm gonna live and
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die then won't even matter to me it's so funny like what are we controlling yeah the person that started this Illuminati
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is long gone but he died you know is his vision about one day come to fruition
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the year 2530 it is funny it is kind of funny I do enjoy talking about them and
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I do enjoy researching conspiracy theories but the end of day I always say to myself it's a long game like Jason and sadness where are we going with this
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is I don't have time I don't have time to wait for this yeah oh how it ends show the world okay alright and then
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what I don't know we're slaves all right
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here we go Jason you're 46 right I am and I'm 44 and I bring that up because
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faith the more has a lot a long seeing legacy that echoes today and
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they're actually currently going on at the more tours right now as a band in 2020 which is amazing to me I believe
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this is I truly blew this with Ruben and Jason and myself and a little bit of my oldest brother Dion we live through a
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real golden era of music of even from pop music to metal to rock and roll to
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movies the 80s and 90s were just an amazing time of music movies faith the
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more when they entered the scene with the real thing the album the real thing even though we'll get into it was their third album but that being said when
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they entered the our lexicon of the popular culture it was 1989 I was 14
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years old at the time and you were 16 so for us as teenagers Jason this was we were so lucky to experience this Mike
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Patton joining Faith No More a phenomenon live as it was happening yeah
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I mean we were there not their first two albums like you say there are two other albums but really it was the addition of
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my Patton that really helped push them into pop culture into our everyday
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consciousness he would have been the match to the fuel of the rest of the band because it was just that perfect
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combination his personality mixed with the music talents of the rest of the band was a
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perfect match and you're right and we did hit an amazing period of music faith
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d'amour came in late 80s early 90s that was a transitioning time we started
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getting the Stone Temple Pilots he started getting the Pearl Jam's you got their Nirvana it was a slightly changing
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musical time period we're starting to leave a little bit of in air close to
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hair bands and it was a little bit of a changing of the guard in that regards we
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were able to experience all and actually the popularization of rap was starting
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to come into the musical mix at that time faith d'amour was able to bridge a
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gap with a lot of these different genres of music and it was the perfect timing
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for I would say a lot of this is a bit of luck in timing isn't that the the key to success in life DNA and luck right so
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Mike Patton had the DNA the band members had the DNA to the talented musicians that combine their talents to form the
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music they formed and the luck man comes into play like the right people here the right thing at the right time and people
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catch on to it and it becomes viral yeah and not to snub Chuck but there's no way
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do you listen to their first two albums there's no way that they would had the
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success with Chuck Mosley there just would not have had that no I think his
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talents were limited his his lyrics would have been limited it was just a different completely different vibe
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bringing in Mike that's a discussion that I know a lot of avid and passionate
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Faith No More fans have it's not quite as visceral as the sammy hagar versus
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Dave Lee Roth debate but there are definitely Chuck Mosley fans that are
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just Chuck Faith No More fans and who fall Chuck's career after he was fired from the band or when he left the band
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and let me just do a disclaimer here so we don't get like a bunch of comments and stuff Jason Meyer not experts on the
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Faith No More history we know a little bit here in there because we didn't live through it so I want to give a bit of a
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plug though and I'm gonna tag them in the release of this episode so maybe they'll listen because I do listen to their show they're called
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the podcast croissant and that's a play of course on the VHS release of their
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videos in 1993 collection it the more video croissant they are the primary if not only Faith
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No More podcast and they are absolutely in the mix they know their faith no more
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like I know my rocky that's probably the best way to explain that one they definitely no faith no more and I love listening to them they know the history
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they know they they know the they're like in a cyclopædia of the band Jason I heard an okapi I'm not gonna
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pretend I know that I have that level of understanding just as an observer as a
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fan of music we have seen many concerts I am probably up from the hundreds of
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live performances sadly Faith No More being one of them that I
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I've not seen that have always wanted to just did not work out Jason and I lived through the greatest time of concerts
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like for example we saw the black tour saw like a CDC's razor edge tour we saw
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the user Lucia tour with Izzy Stradlin still in the band we saw dr. feelgood tour I mean we lived through the really
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the Golden Age of metal and hair bands and whatever want to call it during their heyday of their you know Megadeth
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during the countdown to extinction tour so you name the band that we were there
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at their height seeing these bands on tour so Jason and I actually we had tickets to the Faith No More Metallica
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Guns N'Roses triple bill show that was going on there in the early 90s and that I remember holding that ticket in my
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hand think I can't believe this I can't believe received three bands there were huge fans of and I believe we were second row the second row seventh row on
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the floor yes and then of course so yeah this is usually was a disaster in the
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90s but this actually was a gene ARS fault this was Metallica and not anyone's fault but unfortunately a fill
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was a burnt by pyrotechnic literally days not even a week before cuz this
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happened to Canada I think it was at the Quebec get much held the Montreal concert and so the Vancouver show was
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unfortunately scheduled after that accident and the canceled I think the original intention was to maybe redo
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this but it was never done again and talked about three volatile bands and Mike Patton and his his craziness with
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Axel and Metallica and gene are just kind of being it I remember when this tour was announced I'm like there's no
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way there's too much lightning in one bottle faith the more did tour with G&R and Europe I believe did they not I
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think so yeah you would have people throw fluid up on the stage and you'd eat it off yes that's right that's right
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I've never seen clips of that but any rate but the reason why we're picking the two albums angel dust and the real
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thing is because these two albums without doing research that's the preface for everything here major
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research these two albums are their top-selling albums that they've released as a band - the may be their greatest hits albums
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they're also the two albums that Jason and I had on mega repeat on our CD player over and over
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our car so this episode is about us going through track-by-track we're not gonna be playing the whole song here
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every song but it will do a little snippet here there i've each song parts that we'd liked or just the beginning to see you kind of as a listener that going
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out that song if you're not too familiar with Faith No More we're gonna give our overall feeling and then at the end the
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real thing and then the end of angels us Jason I independent of each other we don't know what each other's pick is we're gonna pick what we think is the
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worst song on the album so as much as we'd love Faith No More as much as we love these two albums there is a song
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that is the worst now doesn't mean again for you Faith No More fanatics doesn't mean the song itself sucks it could mean
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that but it just means if there was one song that fell off that CD of a never to return you could never hear it again you
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had to pick a song that's what we're doing here the real thing came out 1989 this was the first album with Mike
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Patton Chuck Mosley had done the first two albums he left the band for various reasons a lot of those the drugs and its
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inability to perform or what what have you and the band needed a new singer and it's my understanding this album the
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music on this album was already written ready to go they did the writing during the introduce yourself tour so they just
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needed a singer and Mike Patton got the music he put lyrics to the music so this is definitely a Mike Patton singing and
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his lyrics to if not all the songs in this album the majority of them and his style of singing it's are sneaking in
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that will later see this is Mike Patton introducing himself to the world interesting enough Mike Patton was
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discovered while he was in his high school band mr. bungle by Jim Martin it's ironic that Jim Martin introduced
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my Patton to the band and it was on that recommendation that Mike Patton joined the band and he did within a very short
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period of time write all the lyrics yes or the majority of the lyrics I'm sure there was co-writing credits too I could
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see on a couple of songs but the majority I would say 98% the lyrics was
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written by Mike Patton to go along with the music that the band had already
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created right off the get-go like okay you have two other albums with Chuck you
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bring in Mike lyrically singing performance and you're catching
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something special that in my opinion would not have a heard in any other way yeah it's funny when I listen to Mike sing the songs and
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I hear the music the music on this album to it is amazing but yeah it just elevates it to a different level so I
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had this Sony sport Walkman tape deck not even CD yet yeah epic would have
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been just out right so that's our most people's recollection of being
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introduced to the band was through the song epic and so I bought the tape at the time and I remember going
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it was a scout camp and we're going up to karmana Valley and I played this tape
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over and over and the whole car ride to the campsite I can distinctly remember
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in my mind the the logging roads bounced on the logging roads and I was just entranced by this tape by this album by
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this band remember we used to listen to taste girl like okay this time I'm gonna listen I'm only gonna focus on the drums
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and then you listen to it like yeah and I'm wholly going to focus on the bass I'm only gonna focus on the vocals or
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whatever even though we couldn't separate the sounds but that would be what we concentrate on but I remember
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just listening to this album and just trying to really go as deep into it as I possibly could it was very different I
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mean like you say we kind of grew up the Megadeth's the Metallica the a CD C's Guns'n'Roses the Aerosmith's this is
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slowly being introduced to a few other vibes this was a very different
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direction musically than most of our exposure at the time I have fond memories of listening to this tape this
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album and I can still visualize myself as many years later in that station wagon Frank kick pushes station wagon
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listening to this over and over again so that's was my real deep dive introduction was that camping trip
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that's awesome J I don't have a first memory not that it didn't have an impression on me I just don't remember
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the first impression I just remember this feeling that this album brought of different sound at the base the heavy
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chunky base Changez and there is just no boring song
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on this album you could just play this all the way through you're just like this is insane it had a bit of like fun
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to it as well as a combination of fun I was real istening to these albums yesterday a couple of times through just
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refresh my feelings about it yeah I mean there's some kind of dark feelings but at the same time there's a
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couple songs that have this real poppy positive vibe as well let's go into the
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first song for me as great as Mike Patton is it really the band is so
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phenomenal that it's impossible to not understand that this is such a musically
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driven uniquely driven band I don't know the ages of everyone else in the band
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but I assume they're all about the same age but I know Mike Patton was himself the youngest and he's 21 here I don't
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know the ages either suspect that they're a bit older and one of the things I was reading is that Jim Martin
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and Cliff Burton were in a band yeah and that faith the more I believe originally
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the very very early coronations are like 79 yeah they're called faith no man they
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were putting this stuff together long before Mike Patton who if he's playing
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in a high school band if we have that history rate yeah 1986 he was discovered by Jim Martin
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he's playing with mr. bungle before they'd released an album they had just a demo tape at the time yeah yeah so
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anyway here we go you put on the tape this is what you hear right away I know [Music]
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right away you got that driving drums that the bass it hits you right off the
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bat you are grabbed right away knowing where Mike Patton has gone with his
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vocals this is one of his the nasally Mike Patton is not my favorite thing it's not his strongest thing so he might
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not have known quite then just how he was going to sound as time went on but he experiments with different sounds
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throughout this album with this opening track if you were to think this is how he was gonna sound the whole album it might have turned some people off had
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they not discovered how he sounds on other songs sure and I know you mean by the nasally sound it was something that
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I was listening through it yesterday I was kind of surprised to be honest how
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prevalent it was especially on this album I actually wonder if he or the
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band knew exactly the direction that they wanted to go not that he didn't know what he had available to him
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vocally if he just sang like I'm gonna be a rock singer then they wouldn't have
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separated themselves and their sound from many other bands I think maybe possibly he was trying to be a little
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bit unique and a little bit different and not so mainstream it's interesting when you go back and listen to mr.
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bungle and that demo tape and just where Mike Pat had come from and even the how Jim Martin has suggested Pat and it's
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kind of interesting because this singing here sounds nothing like mr. bungle singing right Jim are knew that Mike
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Patton obviously was something of a force of nature as a frontman and he certainly is that opening track for me
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when I listen to this band I hear drums and I hear bass yes Billy Gould and Mike Bordin on drums
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went on to play with Ozzy Osbourne another such great acts like that so a very talented individual in fact you saw
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him with Ozzy Osbourne and he was playing drums it wasn't very cool to see we shoulda said breasted pista Chuck
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Mosley recently passed away last year rest in peace to Ozzy good by the time of this release the fact that he's still
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alive is amazing yeah I actually saw a little chunk of Sirius XM on YouTube
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with Ozzy promoting his new album which actually it's a very solid sounding now
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but I haven't really deep into that one but just from the parts and pieces is pretty decent yeah
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that's what I've heard and I've listened to the parts of pieces - and and ash stuff on it
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track number two kicks in the chorus this school is all saying it's epic it's the song that put them on the map and
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this is track number two on the album however and this is how it starts [Applause]
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not the guitar solo and we wanted time to go through every part of every song Jim Marrs guitar work on this album is
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incredible the tone that he has I mean I don't know guitar tones or how to describe it but the sound that he's
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getting on his guitar absolutely love the part that I love here on this song is that chunky chunky guitar work when
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my pads like what is it is it right here [Music]
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bitching
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that's the song that put them on the map for me to help me better to know that
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they are worth listening to or investing more time with is to see them live and
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once I can see them do a live performance and know that they're capable of performing live and they
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sound somewhat similar to how they sound on an album really helps me know that
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these are a talent and so when we saw them on star tonight live perform the
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song that's when I realize how talented this band actually is that performance
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inside alive is what really helps solidify my appreciation of who they are as musicians I'm not sure if you
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remember that performance I do remember that act stepped on you a little bit with the bass play in there I apologize I remember that wasn't done Mike Patton
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like in the fan or something like that the stage fan or something I don't recall completely that part but
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I remember the music video where they had the fish flopping around right in and then at the end of their Senate live
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performance he was flopping around on the stage like that goldfish yeah I remember that
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so the third track on the album falling to pieces and it opens with that bass line right away
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[Music] so this song has that combination of his
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a little bit of nasally but then he goes low what I really like what the song too is it's a little bit more
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straightforward rocker it's got that really nice guitar part by Jim and they need us a little bit of that singing rap
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that he does it's almost like epic and from out of nowhere if you were to piece him together yes when I was listening relisting to me
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my impressions of the song I agree with all that what you said but for me it just kind of fell flat it almost felt
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like Mike Patton was singing this too easily just felt like I can do this type of singing and this song in my sleep it
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doesn't challenge him I don't think no and it felt like I don't want to use the word bored but it don't seem like he may
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have been bored singing it maybe the lyrics weren't quite what he wanted them to be but they had to make the song
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anyways I didn't feel as engaged in that song it starts off you're like where is this going to go the great bass and
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stuff like that you know that's just my impression not nearly as strong as the first two tracks track for now when this
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one kicks in and now the song is crazy because well surprise you're dead was
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track number four great title now we're hearing the Mike Patton like what this is the same singer and we're starting to
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see his range a little bit even more the energy this song is just unreal I read that Martin this is a comp least
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musically he wrote this with his band that he was with Cliff Burton that's right now I don't know yeah quite a few
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years old this song and you can kind of hear that much more of a heavy heavy
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metal sound to their repertoire yeah yeah so this comes in speaking of from out of nowhere this track number four
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comes in if you're listening to this on a tape like you did and I'm like I did we both own this on tape before we had on CD you know you put this in this
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track number four comes in you're like I almost wish I could seen my face back then when I first heard this
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so it's hard to stop that one it is because the guitaring further on in the
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song the way he just bounces across those strings I think Jim Martin must have loved playing this song in the
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studio this is his lane that he wants to drive in yeah you know we never heard vocals like this we were listening to
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pretty ill safe safe songs and it might have been death metal out there but I was so underground that we never heard
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that there's no youtube we didn't investigate it we never bought an album that had in kind of I don't know if growling was a thing back in 89 the way
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it is I guess the closest thing would have been maybe Pantera or gave me you stain you know kind of within our
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wheelhouse is stuff that we would yeah it but I used a may have had more when he screams up that now you are a man
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that's just that's just amazing yeah yeah it's hard to do that control Mike
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Patton does it in a way that it doesn't bother me I don't know how to explain it I know I don't you mean there's that
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there's other bands that yeah yeah amazing song and I don't think Roddy
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bottum plays any keyboard in the song I don't know I don't know if it's there I know this song digging the grave on Kingford day he purposely steps away
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from that song on stage because he doesn't have any parts to do in it you know a Tharin break yeah
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and surprise you're dead is kind of like I think that same idea it's not him doing much on that song maybe some
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background vocals okay number five zombie eaters the reason why I love this song so much one as a parent I swear is
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speaks to me as a parent of young children and always being tired and being at the beck and call of young
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children all the time and I find it interesting that Mike Patton wrote this song if he did write it this way that kids are constantly you know negging the
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parents and the parents are always tired and and he's only 21 when he wrote this
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so it's very introspective on his part to write through the eyes of it write of a tired parent and the title is zombie
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eaters and what makes this song so great is that it changes it has a soft beginning and then it just kicks in to
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that there's probably I mean up to this point the more mature mmm-hmm
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songwriting song on the album yes are the ones that we've done yep it really
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feels like it's teetering on future potential as song Reiter's I love the way it's a soft
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beginning again with your hearings for the first time you don't know what's coming and when it kicks into that Billy
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Gould again with that heavy crunchy bass - don't don't don't don't you're just like where are we going yeah and
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actually I want to bring up the the acoustic guitar well Jim Martin sounds
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like he is pulling a lot of the guitar Ian sounds and tones from it reminds me
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of master of puppets oh he was a huge Metallica fan obviously work with Cliff Burton of course and right in this I
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really do hear the album Master of Puppets mmm especially in this acoustic guitar
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sound [Music]
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so he does that sing rap II kind of style there again it's a great great
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transition from his very almost a classical scene that he does there against and then it just kicks into that
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and oh man just that guitar Chuck dude chunk of chunk they do they do there it's such a strong song sorry you're
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allowed to say your favorite song you just I think your work I don't know if it is because I'm looking at from out of
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nowhere and then I looked back down to sama beaters and so yeah I would think that this is maybe a very mature
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songwriting I would think probably one of the younger songs on the album would
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be a guess probably the contrast again between surprised you're dead the way that one begins in the way this one has
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that classical beginning and people like where are we going here it's a little bit what we'll see you later an angel that's of the journey do people take
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their zombie eaters as probably if I'd say it's probably my second favorite song on the album but the one that follows it is my favorite song okay yeah
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and that's the real thing it's a lot easier to pick the worst than it is to pick the best yes that's why we're the
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worst the best it's it's easy to pick the best yeah for this album the best song in my opinion is the real thing
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it's one that probably it's waltz it's in the top 5 of faith of more songs easily I don't have that list of my head
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but it's in there now what I love about this song it's not just the guitar work by Jim the whole band's amazing a course
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but Mike Patton the way he just sounds almost desperate at the end the build-up and his vocal and almost like a gasping
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for air right the combination of that singing the rap rock I don't want to call it the way he's able to s'matter
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the vocals the ending to this song is such a great payoff because you just know it's come here listen to the real
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thing it's slowly builds it teases it for a little bit in the middle and then it goes back slow again yeah yeah yeah
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yeah yeah the push and pull in Rayong there's give and then they take away and then they give it back to you so I'm
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gonna give the climax here without any foreplay [Music]
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like I love that feeling like it's almost running out of air at the end what's so hard not to ignore in their
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music is the way that the bass and the drums play off each other it is truly the driving force of their sound and
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another thing that Faith No More introduced to me anyway is we didn't really listen to a lot of music where
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there was synth sound keyboard I mean but I guess the most we probably listen to is the doors and deep purple yeah so
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to be very little and it's kind of interesting how they were able to have that synthesizer keyboard sound going on
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and making it feel like it's okay it's okay coming from more of a heavy metal
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hard rock other than maybe a few songs that had piano in it like November rain
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or estranged but having that synth sound that soundstage that they brought into
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their music helped push the envelope at least as far as I go you know with my musical expanse I guess your if you were
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to talk to us before Faith No More we would have told you the keyboard was rigged eeks yeah like I don't want to
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see the keyboard yeah yeah what are we doing there Roddy bottum made it cool yeah you
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didn't have a keytar those were the
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words keytar what do you do walk it around the keyboard strapped around a
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bag that looked horrible I guess it's the same with a guitar is put there Qatar's down like the slide guitar that
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also looks to have a guitar or piano
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pick wood you can't have both so yeah as far as you know being a teenager with
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the a keyboard on stage and you didn't really think that that was a cool thing at the time but now looking back you
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like he did make it cool that soundstage really added to the depth of what they
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were doing so that was the real thing incredible song like we said that is my favorite on the album if not top 5 of
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the Faith No More songs right and then we have a transition to a different song
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altogether this album like mol Faith No More album every song is just a little
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different as a little something else that maybe challenges you or takes you to on a different journey this is a very
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kind of psychedelic it's perfectly titled underwater love because it's this weird psychedelic journey of a song yeah
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for sure [Music]
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again with Billy Gould space yeah I mean the driving feel to so many of these
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songs and Stephanie the bass is the way the drum interacts with that base that gives it that bounce I don't know how
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else to describe but there's kind of a balancer or hop and a skip to the song the synthesizer sounds kind of giving
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that water feeling that soundstage that water soundstage I said yeah 11 even
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though the song begins it has like a they really do make it feel like there's this weird I call psychedelic because if
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I did do acid or mushrooms this is how I picture if they did the music video for
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the song I would picture like a lot of colors kind of like a 1960s Austin Powers type video mmm but for me it has
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the following two pieces vibe as well it feels almost too easy
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almost too straightforward I can see Mike Patton being able to sing this song and asleep musically it's great but just
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kind of lyrically singing wise it's almost too too easy I mean that's just
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my lasting impression of it I mean it's not like I hate the song I've gravitated
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to others well before this one he doesn't sound invested the way that he
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sounds invested in other songs yeah I agreed I agree that's a good comparison with that and falling to pieces
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the next song on the album is the morning after and this is a song it's funny it's a song that I always forget
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existed till I hear it and then I realize what I hear it how much I love it
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yes you read the word the morning after you just kind of like huh okay and then
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you listen to it you're like oh yeah I've listened to this album since 1989 so this has been on my lexicon for 31
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years yeah right it's a strong song it's an incredible song here to show me the
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tracklist scene for this album and this wasn't on there I might not be able to come up with the title of what was
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missing right I would agree yeah let's take a listen [Music]
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talk about today there's a base of drums
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so say that again and then the synth yappa synthesizer yeah it gives you that it's that
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soundstage that yeah the band has throw
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up their albums another example of the song that starts a little bit soft even
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though the driving bass and what-have-you but it builds up in its
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intensity yes in the second half of this song is the strongest yeah we'll get to that right now yeah this part here
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there you go yeah even the last 30-some
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odd seconds of the song and you can hear Mike Patton's like kind of layered vocals in that if I should get listen to
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headphones yeah you hear that gravelly more dark or evil
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vocals [Music]
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great song it is a very solid track very solid I didn't mention this before and
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again we might have some listeners to the show that are listening to our first time coverage of a band or the first
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time listening to this podcast because of Faith No More or whatever your reasons for the scene the criteria that we have when it comes to music when we
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pick the worst there's a couple criterias number one it cannot be an instrumental only unless the band itself
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is an instrumental only band which we haven't covered yet you can't pick a song where the whole band is not in on
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it as a worse song so to speak and to it can't be a cover so it has to be original work so the next two songs
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we're not gonna play samples from it because if you're a Faith No More fan you already know these songs that we're out here trying to sell Faith No More to
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people but if you aren't - Faith No More fan and hopefully you these samples of these songs Mesa CO listen to them
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because I highly recommend them if you haven't listened to them outside the epic song woodpecker from Mars though it's an incredible instrumental it's not
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up for the worse or best pick so to speak and what's interesting is oftentimes instrumentals from bands is
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just kind of a throwaway but the instrumentals in both this and on angel dust are so strong they wouldn't be the
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worst song on the album if we were including it often I would throw away like you know with metallic ease to do
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an instrumental I can I could just leave it yeah I don't want to hear an instrumental on an album of a band it's
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just not my thing but having said that these two instrumentals and of course we
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were talking specifically about woodpecker from Mars is actually a very strong song and I do not mind listening
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to it which is kind of rare it would be something I would typically fast forward
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or you know skip it's a song that when I listen to it the album I love it I love the how it sounds I love how the whole
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band is just it really is a rocket song and I wonder if there ever was a rigid lyrics or what the reasons were for not
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having lyrics for the song cuz Faith No More doesn't have quote unquote a lot of instrumental songs that I'm
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aware of and then war pigs I could take it or leave it I was not a fan of this version no and that's why I would say if
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we included the covers it's that would be an easy it would be an easy pick we'll take away war pigs and woodpecker
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even if it was included it and again this apologize for the background noise to our listeners I've got a house full of kids and visitors
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upstairs and they are just being particularly glad at this monthly that's okay that's life man that's life the album
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ends with the song which I think it's a kind of a great way to end this album so Alma as you know it's just end-to-end
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rockers and the heavy songs and what-have-you but we end up with a really nice kind of sounding and every
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time I hear the song I really picture them singing by the poolside I've always pictured them they really just chilling
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with the pool the Sun and they're just like do do do do but what I love about the edge of the world even though it's
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slow and I say slow it's soft it's what better way of saying - it's a soft song it really showcases the classical style
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of mic pads ability to sing yeah it does I mean and that's why when I hear songs
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like I had mentioned before falling to pieces or underwater love and then you hear what he can actually do if he was a
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string I'm sorry sing a more straight song it would have been less nasally in
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those two vocals those two other tracks and more I wish he would have sung maybe
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those other songs with more of a actual singing voice that he is capable of
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doing right it feels like it wasn't an invested but if he had done something differently with his vocals rather than
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just kind of seeing that nasally singing and maybe approach it in a way that he approached the edge of the world I mean
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not like the slow vibe but just the actual singing from beginning and they may have been stronger tracks or stood
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out more because musically I thought they were strong I think just vocally he just doesn't sound invested in it but
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yeah this is here a sample of it okay [Music]
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so that there is weird [Music]
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it's really he never does that again but it almost sounds female like Lady Gaga
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in a way like a low octane female singer and it's really done well he controls
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his voice there like I said I wish he would have used more of that type of singing approached the singing and those
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couple other songs throughout the album to break it up and add a little bit of variety like I say as hard under water
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love and 400 pieces if he had just sung it may be more of a straight-up rock song or utilized the way that he sung
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edge of the world you know like these different vocal approaches alright that brings us to the end of the official
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release of the real thing it's gone through other releases with bonus tracks
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or Japanese tracks or whatever but this is the official release track listing now don't give your pick yet I'll go
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first I'll let you go last be there the guest host on this episode for me this is very easy I call this the Enter
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Sandman syndrome okay I hate it when
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people get mad when bands are successful I'm the opposite my wish for everyone for everyone if you like a band that
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they're successful so you can see them in tour they have albums you can listen to them on your iPhone or whatever it is
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because what a band is not successful they don't have an audience you're not gonna hear anything from them right my wish is always for everyone to be
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successful or whatever band you're a fan of or artist because then you get to see them you get to see them perform epic
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did that for Faith No More and they did that for Metallica Enter Sandman but it's a song that I never ever ever ever
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listened to ever on my own I don't put on epic I don't think I've ever listened to it on purpose since 1991 right the
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reason being is because it doesn't reflect the band we shold all these other songs I fall into pieces zombie
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ders the real thing underwater love that's the band on this album and epic does not represent the band though I
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understand that it it grabs people and there's parts in the song that I really enjoy that the crunchy guitar part where
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it almost sounds very metallica driven and what he's going what is it it's it I like all that stuff but that's
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just the the song they like actually isn't the song itself everyone knows that rapping part and what-have-you but yeah that's
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the worst song for me and it's song I could be happy never hearing it again unless it was in concert right I
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understand why you would make that pick it makes complete sense to me it's kind of like you wish they never had release
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it as a single so that you could appreciate it more often and not have burned it out burned it out like that's
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what happened right yeah I'm almost envious of people that hear this album bad for the first time they're teens now
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and they don't know that as a single they just hear it as a song and then they're probably blown away by it and it's not overplayed in their life
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because they're just hearing it for the first time in 2020 let's say it's similar and how I feel about you could
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be mine from Guns N'Roses man what a strong song what an awesome
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song but they released it as a single they released it on the Terminator 2 soundtrack and they feel obligated to
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play it every single time they do a show and that's something that every familiar
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with and they have to do it but every time you hear that song now what are you thinking of every time you hear it Terminator 2 I think of are walking down
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the music video and the music video is amazing yeah it's awesome but yeah it's just too bad you release that as a
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single because as a fan I don't want to be tarnished by its overuse it's over
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play its connection with Terminator 2 even though it was a fun video and I get
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wide was awesome to see it played loud and live and the movie Terminator 2 I remember watching in the theaters and
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seen it on the big screen am I remembering that Ryan yeah you remembering that correctly okay so yes
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seeing and hearing that song you could be mine in the theater and at the time I
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wasn't burned out of it yeah you're right because we were so desperate for new material we just yes any piece
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anything that would showcase guns roses especially loud and the theater was awesome but now you know 25 26 years
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later I'm like yeah I wish it was never a single I wish as a fan I could enjoy that song every time I listen to that
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you know I'm like so I get why epic it would be your pick but when I was
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refreshing myself with these albums I enjoyed listening to epic I enjoyed Jim
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Martin's guitar solo and I always loved that guitar solo and I was surprised by
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my blase response to both falling to pieces and underwater love this fair I
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just felt like his vocals he just doesn't sound invested in the song he doesn't sound like he cares that much
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about what he's singing about I thought edge of the world the beginning of edge of the world I was like this is probably
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going to be my pick but I listened to it a couple times and I appreciated what I was hearing
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specifically the second half of the song it kind of picked up and so for me it
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was close it was almost gonna be almost right off the bat edge of the world and then I listened to it a couple times and
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I kind of appreciated more of what they were doing having said all that I'm gonna have to go with underwater love
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that's fair that's fair if epic was to do song if I didn't have the memory that
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I've had with that the history I have with that song the resentment I feel towards there was so successful that you
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can't enjoy it any but it's nothing you don't enjoy it it's weird because without that song I wouldn't know who they were when I knew them and I loved
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it when I first heard it of course but then I when I got to know who Faith No More is and of course who they became with angel dust that song almost seems
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childish to me you sure yeah yeah [Music]