The Worst of the Best Podcast

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how you doing brother I'm very good very good it's good to talk to you in the new year 2020 starting out all right yeah it
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is you very good you got the picture now you're you're looking as handsome as ever hey stop it fortunately it's just
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me the audience will not see us well plug your Facebook so everyone can gaze at you after the episode I don't really
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update my Facebook it's got like a three-year-old picture on there so nonsense you know well that's good
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you're younger back then right I was I was that's what people do these days just keep that old picture up there keep
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that old picture Going H yeah catfishing is that what they call it uh I hope they
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don't call it that for me I hope they're nicer about about it me how's the weather for you oh uh cold
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cold yeah I see some of your videos where you go uh traing through the snow
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makes me remember why I don't live in Ohio anymore oh smart yeah so where you at right now is this your house yeah
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this is my place I'm trying to set up like a podcasting room or whatever it is really my cat's room so if you start to
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he hear uh me owing it's because he thinks I'm in here feeding him I'm I'm trying to do more of this and I
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appreciate you inviting me so this is the spot that I've set aside in my place to do it awesome well it's good to have
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you and we'll uh pretty much get going this isn't live so don't worry about okay that's cool I I mean I've listened
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to a lot of your podcast and she showed me that you had a sfold one I went scrolling I saw how many of them uh you
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know really fit my interest as well so I listen to several of them today just to get the vibe good yeah that's what I
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like about this podcast I don't expect there's some people that listen to every episode just because of no matter the
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topic but that's kind of why I wanted my it was my brother's IDE idea to do this
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podcast yeah it was his idea are you a fan of pear jam at all I I don't hate
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him it's like you said before I'm not not a fan okay that's yeah yeah yeah
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that's my favorite one for that that was the first episode it was that first episode that we explained how the show
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started as all basically for any of our listeners who are coming on we I guess we'll just get into it and we can explain the show cuz I'm sure some some
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listeners might be coming on just because you're on you know friends and family of yours will probably it's possible yeah I I would assume so okay
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here we go welcome to the worst of the best podcast you wanted the best well they
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didn't freaking make it so here's what you get from Canada
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right and [Applause]
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[Music]
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Reuben all right welcome everyone to the worst of the best podcast I am Ryan and
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Ruben is not with me today unfortunately he had well I don't know what I can say it's it's well it's not a it's not a
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secret he unfortunately had to attend a funeral so it was was unforeseen event of course and so he wasn't able to
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record this weekend and we wish uh him and the the loved ones involved all the best there we have a special guest host
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with me today his name is Drew and he guest host you'll recognize his voice for those who listen to him on the third
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ey blind podcast both episodes we did of that those two podcasts Drew just so you
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know you'll be happy to know our two of the top downloaded episodes that doesn't
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surprise me at all third ey blind fans are Maniacs it's it's crazy and we
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talked about when we recorded and I will say and I don't think the other guys listen to the show maybe they do I don't
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know but the other guys were great they were great uh on the uh on the podcast and the other guys a guest host but I
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remember thinking when I was recording with you on those two episodes I was thinking boy Drew's Drew is a great
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podcast voice and he's got a great way of explaining things things he knows about things he's passionate about so I
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actually made a side note to myself if I ever do another episode I want Drew to be on it as a guest host I did have you
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in mind I did reach out to you and I think you reached out to me as well I can't remember but yeah I did reach out to you I think it was around the holiday
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season I had just seen something that you had tweeted and I said well this is the same sort of thing that I would have
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tweeted if I would have been online at that moment as well we do have some shared interests I appreciate the
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compliments I don't know how people get their big break and podcasting neither do I you know four or five I don't know
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I can't wait for that day I can't wait you're still looking forward to it right oh yeah you know I enjoy listening to
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podcast of a lot of different varieties on mute or while I'm doing busy work around the house or just those sorts of
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things it's something that I found really entertains me on a variety of subjects given the opportunity to work
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with you has been really beneficial to me and I've really appreciated it uh as
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we find more things that we can chat about to an audience of uh half dozens then I think that you know we should
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continue doing this for as long as you feel like it awesome that's awesome yeah well Ruben's gonna be out of a job no
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I'm just I'm just kidding no it's always hard to get a guest host for this podcast other than my Rocky podcast that
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I do with Ruben because this was Ruben's brainchild this show but he's given me his Blessing to get an episode out there
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because as you would know one of the first rules of podcasting is to be a little bit regular you don't want to
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keep people wondering are they going to release an episode this month and I there's a few podcasts that I listen to
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they're lucky to have me as a listener because some of them are very irregular with their releases I'm kind of a purist
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I'll stick around for a long time because I know people get busy this is not a job I do not get any money from
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this this cost me money to to do a podcast so it's a hobby to do the feed to do the editing that costs money and
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time so it's definitely a hobby so I would recommend anyone who wants to podcast do not go into it thinking
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you're going to make money just have fun and that's what I'm in it for these topics that we're going to discuss the
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things that are near and dear to my heart so I appreciate that you are able to make some time and fit it in with the topic and uh God bless Ruben for coming
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up with the format because uh I've really enjoyed listening to some of the back episodes great yeah that's great so
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you know how this works but for our new listeners I'll explain it really quick for anyone that's jumped on this episode because of you which is very likely what
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Ruben and I have done is we've created a podcast where we don't create the best of meaning there's tons of podcasts out
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there that have you know the top 10 this the top 10 that or whatever they want that's fine what we've decided to do
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that every top list of some sort has a worst and it's not always the number 10
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because the top list is is objective sorry correction the top list is
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subjective that's right is that right I don't even know sometimes you try to do the objective top 10 based off of some
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statistic somewhere that would be the objective top 10 a lot of times you know
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from what I've seen it's hard to put a pen on that so you wind up with somebody's list that may or may not be
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uh substantiated any way shape or form right exactly exactly what we usually do
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is for example we did Tom Petty as an as a episode and we just grabbed his
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greatest hits album and that was his number one his number one selling album was his greatest hits album so right
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there is an example of it might not be everyone's favorite album who's a Tom Petty fan however that album sold the
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most copies you can't deny the sales so what Ru and I will do is we'll pick an artist and we'll pick either the top
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selling albums one two three or four copies whatever it might be your uh albums or the greatest hits album
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whatever one's the top seller and then we decide from that top which one is not the cream of the crop track or movie or
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whatever it might be and we have a little bit of fun with that sometimes we don't quite follow our own formula because it's just it's just fun to talk
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about things and to break down lists but today's pretty easy today's is a pretty straightforward example of how we do it
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we're doing Matt Damon today so what we've done is yeah you're a big you're a big Matt Damon fan we're going to get
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into that so how it's going to be set up for today is we chose the top nine box
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office grossing films so again these might not even be the critic Darlings some of these films that are not there
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might not even be fan favorites if you're a Matt Damon fan you you'll be wondering what about this movie what about that movie we don't pick that the
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public picked with their pocket meaning they paid to see these movies they were successful at the box office and so
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we're GNA pick the worst independently of each other we don't know our pick Drew does not know my pick I don't know
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his pick from that list of what we think is the worst of Matt Damon's biggest box
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office film so we're going to break those down Drew what is your relationship to Matt Damon how have you become a fan or when did you first
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become a fan I first became a fan in the in the mid 90s when it seemed like he was popping up in just about every movie
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with a budget under 10 grand uh he was a big sort of mirax darling from what I
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can remember he was a part of that gang of actors that included Ben Affleck
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Kevin Smith that appeared in those Kevin Smith movies that were so popular forget the name of the blonde girl that played
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Amy in chasing me you remember her name I I don't remember her name she didn't quite make it big her voice drove me up
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the wall though who the do you think you are you judgmental prick how the F am I
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supposed to feel about this how are you supposed to feel about it feel whatever the you want to feel about it all right
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the only thing that matters is how you feel about me I do think that she popped up later
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in several other Kevin Smith movies but that was sort of the uh what do you call it the view ask you verse back in the
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mid to late 90s beyond that though I was really drawn to some of his biggest hits
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in 1997 like rounders the rain maker Goodwill Hunting the were uh big sort of
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critically acclaimed movies and I was in the right time of your life I don't know about you but I was um 13 years old in
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1997 I had decided that I was ready to see the aour flips I had decided that I
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was ready to see what was getting the Oscar nominations and that sort of thing and so I went out of my way to do that
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it wasn't anything that anyone else was sort of joining me on but uh I was in a ESPN in high school did some monologues
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that were Tak taken from some of Matt Damon's roles sort of made those my own and performed those in a small setting I
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found him to be identifiable to me as an actor both in his sort of I would say
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like like a down on his luck from the streets kind of charm in some of his earlier roles but he could very easily
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sort of flip that switch and be a part of sophisticated Society or you know he
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could speak eloquently he sort of You know despite having a boss on accident good little hunting he was by far the
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smartest person in that movie the way that he was able to convey this very relatable but also he may be the best of
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us kind of personification in those early movies in the mid 90s once the oceans movies came around he was a
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Bonafide Hollywood movie star and that only solidified further with a lot of his later franchises I never thought
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Will Hunting would be a franchise guy but he certainly did turn into that no that's great no and I've always enjoyed
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Matt Damon I mean every time I think of Matt Damon now I think of the team America Matt
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Damon Matt Damon Matt Damon Matt
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Damon Matt [Music] Damon what are your thoughts on that
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little joke within Team America well I liked his willingness and he's always been able to do this throughout his
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career willingness to make fun of himself did he do the voice for that I think he had some part in it it's my understanding that what is it Trey
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Parker and mat Stone those guys from South Park it's understanding that they had some dealings with him yeah he
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wouldn't be offended by it yeah he turns 50 this year that is surprising because to me right still the boyish good looks
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the charm that he exudes it's hard to believe it's hard to believe my story is similar to yours I've always loved
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movies and I'm a little bit older than you so I was already that teenage thespian of film going in
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1990 I remember when I was 15 and I saw Good Fellas for example and I just was blown away that movies could be like
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this I couldn't believe that there's just a whole cuz before then I was watching of course the Rockies and Star
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Wars and Indiana Jones and you know loving movies and back to the future but you turned like 13 14 15 you started
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dipping your toe into the adult Waters of films you're just like there's some real heavy films out there platoon
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Godfather and I just miss those days of discovering film I think those are days are kind of lost now Matt Damon he came
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on the scene I'm I'm just looking at his film roles here and I think I first saw him ironically playing a small role in
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Dono in America Legend in 1993 he had a small role
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yeah because I was a movie goer and I would have been 18 at the time and I saw
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this in the theaters I love westerns and Frontier type films and Dro fits that category so I saw this in the theater
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next film I saw of his in the theater would have been 1996's courage Under Fire the reason I saw this again was not
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because of Matt Damon I I think I saw School Ties on VHS but I might have seen it a little bit later
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after it release probably because of Matt Damon becoming bigger I probably would have gone back to the catalog and
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picked up that film sure because when I saw School Ties I knew who Matt Dam and Ben Affleck were I would have known that
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92 no it shocked me that he had done a film as early as 1992 I can't even
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imagine how young he would have been how big his role could have been that maybe when I had to dig up it made a whopping
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$114,000 isn't that crazy yeah I know right and
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then courage Under Fire the reason why I saw this film in the theater is because I'm a big Edwards Wick fan I love I
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loved his films in the 80s and 90s that he directed like Glory but Edward zwick I've enjoyed his films I was a big
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Denzel fan so I saw that and of course he played uh his wouldn't be his last time playing a soldier but he right yeah
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so he played a very thin Soldier and then Chasing Amy I I know I saw this on
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video with did not I don't think I've ever seen a Kevin Smith film in the in the big screen to be honest with not one but I've seen them all he yeah yeah I
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think Kevin Smith almost expects that I think he is a a DVD rental guy or VHS rental guy I always saw him that way you
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know I've never seen any of his films in the theater he put out four or five movies in the mid 90s before a lot of
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people even knew he' put out one so once you sort of caught wind of M rats I think that was when people were brought
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on board with Kevin Smith and they go oh there clerks oh there's Chasing Amy oh there's these other things out there
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that are similar characters I mean he was very close with Affleck and gamon before they got any of their big breaks
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and those guys played sort of small roles and sort of small movies but they got that cult following and people went
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to video stores and got them I think I did the exact same thing the next movie I saw in the theaters with Matt Dame is
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when he started to hit a big out of the blue big because uh Goodwill Hunting and
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the rain maker both came out one month ahead of each other the rain maker came out a month before Goodwill Hunting and
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I saw the rain maker in theater the first Matt Damon film I saw where I knew this was now a star was the rain maker
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and the reason why I saw the rain maker in the theater was because I was a big John grien fan I've heard that you're a big John gisan fan have you seen all of
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his uh books that have turned into movies yes have you really I've read I've read I've read all the books that
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have become movies and a cple a couple others that have not become movies in fact I became a John Grim fan because I
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was a Tom Cruz fan first and I've Loved Tom Cruz since Top Gun so when I heard that Tom Cruz was doing a movie called
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The Firm based on a book by a guy named John gri I went out and bought the book read the book so I could uh know the
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movie before it came out the firm is a fantastic movie and I don't think it ever gets old with chishan giving us
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these kind of jaded looks at the legal profession as he does in in a lot of
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those ways seeing Matt Damon in the rain maker I actually caught it after I saw good bll hunting it was something that I
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went back and caught him in and I was surprised at how different that role was you know he wasn't this rash kid from
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souie he was a little more timid and he was trying to learn the ropes but he was put in a big situation so the The
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Rainmaker is one of my absolute favorite movies I will never forget the uh Discovery scene uh where they get the uh
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room full of boxes of documents you know what I talk about yes yes that's the
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first one that sort of introduces you too this is how uh it really works now
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what we'll do because we kind of got in the chronological order of how we both kind of entered Matt Demon's celebrity
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or his screen so unlike you though I am not not a fan so what I mean by that is
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I have never once ever seen the Matt Damon film because he was in it and
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that's the same way I am with Robert dairo I don't know if you listen to our Robert dairo episode I haven't heard it yet okay that was the same thing with
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him I have seen many Bobby daero films and have enjoyed many Robert daero films
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but I have never ever seen a film because of daero do you think it's because these guys somehow find
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themselves most comfortable in roles that are in more ensemble cast it's not to say that they can't carry a film but
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it's to say that they really shine and they really stand out when they have great people to work with it's probably
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a bit of that for example I will see a Martin Scorsese film yeah so I go out of
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my way to see a mar scy film and guess who happens to be in a lot of scy films da yeah so with Matt Damon that's the
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same kind of thing I have seen a lot of his films but never because he's in them do you go see them because
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sometimes they are stepen stb counts that would be a very good reason wouldn't it well we're going to get into that so how we're going to do this is
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we'll start with the lowest box office and then we'll work our way to the top all right so what we've done is we have
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taken the box office of these films from least to greatest for our listeners we're going to give you the box office
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this box office has been adjusted for inflation the reason why this is important is because it represents
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ticket sales today so if this film was released today with today's ticket box office prices it would represent how big
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of a box office hit this would be in 2020 or 2019 I think that's important because it just shows you how big some
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of these films are in relation to films of today it does are we including the currently released board verse for Ari
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or are we leaving that out I haven't seen it have you no I have not no there's no way she perform a Christian
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Bale film would never make a worse of list anywhere I am a huge Christian Bale fan
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the fact that he's in it and I've heard good reviews and it's also directed by um I'm Donal blank as well yeah I know
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the name once I see it I'll be like yes James mangled he directed yeah he directed like Copland and a couple of
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those good Wolverine movies the he did yeah he did Logan he did he's a great director and it's one of many many many
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awards and I've heard good things it's a box office success as well by default we'll say no Christian Bale movie could
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possibly be the worst Matt Dam yeah that's a great way of saying it
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yeah yeah if Christian Bale is in a in a Matt Damon film it would never make the
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worst of list that's impossible yeah but again I think that goes towards what our conversation is I think there's a lot of
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people go see that movie because go see a Christian Bale movie because Christian Bale constantly reinvents himself
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because he and one of these days we'll do a Christian Bale podcast I but he is
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he is the kind of magnetic actor that you go see his St because he's oh he's amazing uh he also said speaking to
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Christian Bale that he's not gonna do any more weight changes for movies anymore and I think that's for you know
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all of our benefit I think it's kind of creepy to see that he does it's amazing that it's it's just the human body
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transforming the way that he does it but I don't need to see it anymore I've seen it seen it enough times and it's kind of
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scary The Machinist was worrisome I can't watch it I haven't seen that film because of that I can't
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watch it it was it was worrisome True Grit came out in 2010 it was directed by
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the amazing Duo of Joe and Ethan Cohen and written by them of course it was
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based on the novel true grip by Charles Portis and as we know there's the 1969
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film with John Wayne the box office had it been released today made $292 million
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what was this a 2010 movie yes yeah 2010 movie and it had um had Josh Roland in
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it as well right and more importantly it had Jeff Bridges of course Jeff Bridges
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is one of my all-time favorite supporting actors this movie sticks out to me because of what you said because it was sort of right in line with those
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quintessential Cohen Brothers movies it's fantastic to see them getting to work with different actors that are sort
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of they do one with Tommy Lee Jones and Javier bardam then the next one they do
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is with some other you know equally qualified actors I think they've had their pick of really great actors I'm
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actually surprised this movie didn't make more just think about how far we've come from 2010 when you can just sort of
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make this sort of movie it's not a superhero movie it's not in any connected universe but it's a good story
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and it entertains you for two hours 96% critics not that that should matter but
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it was uh 96% yeah there's your cat yeah Rotten Tomatoes 96% critics gave that average
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score of 8.3 for Metacritic so obviously a critical darling as they say and so
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here's an example of I saw this movie that had Matt David in it because I'm a huge Cohen brother fan well and no one
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can blame you for that and a western fan you think being a western fan makes you a Cohen Brothers fan or do you think
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it's just a happy coincidence in this situation it's probably a happy coincidence though I love their Netflix you love you love Fargo yes you know
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these These are American westerns I consider them I old country for dead men
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uh No Country for Old Men sorry what did I say oh boy I I've been up since 4:30
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in the morning okay yeah you've been texting me since 4:31 um sorry no you're
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fine uh old country for dead men what you said I love we cut you for dead man that's
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awesome that's the sequel all right it should be but that's what they they don't make sequels so that's true okay
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is this the only Cen brother movie that dam was ever in at least the one on our list I think so yes fair enough I didn't
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go through all of them and I don't know their filmography as well as I should but I know that hits it sounds right
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okay so the next box office film is elisium released in
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2013 directed by Neil blong Camp he's kind of an interesting director what do
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you find interesting about him well he did the uh District 9 he's kind of a Sci-Fi dude was this a sequel to
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District 9 is that was this is that what this was no I don't think it was even in the same world of District 9 but I can
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tell you that I went into it thinking it was oh isn't that funny sometimes these
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movies you convince yourself they're part of a bigger universe and they are not right and he also did that movie
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chappie about the robot who becomes a interesting film I enjoyed it what I
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like about Neil Blom Camp is he uh is from South Africa and so he certainly
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has a different Vision than maybe a director from Hollywood regarding uh storytelling he challenges you that his
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films are a little bit challenging and they're Not Just Popcorn fodder he was actually going to do and was very close
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to doing an alien film and I'm really upset it never happened and a Robocop film you mean he almost did part of the
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alien franchise yeah considering what they've done since then with the Prometheus movies that I've enjoyed the
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ones with fastfender I think the Alien films would have been open to one of
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these guys entries to uh sort of give it a new life this movie elisium that is
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just filled with social commentary just like District 9 was in a Sci-Fi context I really appreciate social commentary
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you know it sort of makes you think this is the ways we could go right this is the ways we could go devastatingly wrong
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in the somewhat near but not too distant future what I did not like about elisium
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was Matt Damon's look he creep me out that's what they were going for but oh
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yeah I don't I don't know any other movie where he intentionally made himself as ugly as possible but that's
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what he did here it was disturbing it was a turnoff for me I actually rewatched this recently could were you
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able to see the Matt Damon in this even though you weren't looking at the top
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five most handsome man in the world well yeah it's funny they bring that up again so I think we're going to see a running
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theme Here I saw this movie because I was interested to see his followup to District 9 which I quite enjoyed and I'm
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a huge Jodie Foster fan I like JY Foster yo I love her I've I have had a crush on her since I was a
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teenager because I saw her in science of lambs when I was 15 16 and she's only like 10 years older than me uh or 14
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actually no she's 14 years older than me so when you're a 15-year-old boy she's 29 right uh I don't know anybody that's
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ever said that anything of Silence of the Lambs like sort of turn them on oh I I thought she I thought I thought she
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was intelligent and smart and that was sexy to me I know I'm weird aren't I Perhaps Perhaps Clarice isn't the the
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first person that I choose as a Teenage object but no and I I've always loved her intelligence and everything and then
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of course she she's uh not a heterosexual and and I did right yeah
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well it's funny part of me is I was I'm happy that she's happy like I but I was
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disappointed that whatever chance in the universe I had I've ever you know hook it up with Jordie Foster was you know it
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quickly went out the window quite quickly after discovering that she she would never be interest trust me anyways
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and no matter what Universe we I think I just learned a lot about you
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right that's fine I have issues you know Jodie Foster was an interesting part of this movie and and
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her role was you know more of the sort of evolved 2010's Jodie Foster she's uh
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take charge you know she is sort of the authoritarian you know Matt Damon's
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place in this movie was and it was fine he was certainly like the protagonist this was his movie oh it was I think I
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think on top of a lot of the movies that we're going to talk about this was not an ensemble cast I mean there were some other people that you knew about but
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this was a Matt Dameon play it was hard to watch them it was weird it was kind of like I get grossed out a little bit
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too I was kind of grossed out I think that something that they were going for I think that was very intentional for
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people like me that had just lived through 16 years of a very handsome man on their screen saying very smart things
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now you've got this bald albino or something like that I just didn't dig it
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okay so yeah it was it was not as good as District 9 I I remember feeling a little bit disappointed by The
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Experience having Matt Damon and Jordi fost a film together and a sci-fi film I probably came in with higher hopes than
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what resulted on screen well I certainly did too I thought it was a sequel to one of my favorite Sci-Fi movies of you know
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past couple years and it just wasn't sometimes you walk into something not knowing you get into and I got a
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sci-fi movie with a simol social commentary with District 9 but it wasn't part of that world and a Matt Damon
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movie nonetheless now that made 318 million in today's money at the box office so not bad no not bad at all then
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they're only to get higher as we go so coming in at 341 million which is incredible considering
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the budget was quite low it was Good Will Hunting which uh starred Ben afflac Matt Damon and I saw this in the
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theaters and I saw this in the theaters because of Robin Williams Robin Williams the great Robin Williams rest in peace I
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think that you're remiss by leaving him out it was a a triple Bill if nothing
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else it was a Ben Affleck Matt Damon Robin Williams movie it really was I'm not afraid to say it's my favorite movie
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ever I've probably seen it 200 times oh wow wow yeah yeah there's a lot to that
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movie like I said I got into this Matt Damon thing as a um as a 13-year-old I'm
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not going to say that it was that I didn't grow up on the Mean Streets of Southie I grew up in the suburbs of Columbus Ohio you know didn't have any
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struggles with single parent household or any of the things that uh Will Hunting dealt with but I really really
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related to him he struggled with the well his character struggled with the
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weight of the expectations that came with his intelligence and that is I
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think very relatable thing for a lot of people coming through in high school or you know even in the College Years when
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you realize that there are people that just look at you as the smartest person ever so how are you not a billionaire
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rocket scientist the way that Will Hunting struggled through that for this movie that was obviously very heartfelt
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to affle and Damon and that they uh you know they worked through the script I can recall hearing about the ways that
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they agonized over getting that script perfect because they were eventually
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Oscar winning screen writers for it the dialogue in that movie really speaks true to me in a lot of different ways
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everything from his very funny sense of humor his very weird sense of humor his
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very kind of [ __ ] sense of humor kind of you need to be as smart as I am to
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understand this joke that I'm telling you you don't even know I'm telling you a joke right now I really felt like that
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character this is probably probably his best character and if you asked him maybe the most true to who he was a
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person at that time which would make sense since you know they wrote it and you always what what do you say you write what you know you write what you
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know and you create a character that's like you but a little bit larger than life it's like his Rocky it's like his
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Rocky I would think so you can throw out a half dozen scenes from that movie that
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move people um and I can just I can just refer to them the it's not your fault
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scene the I have to go see about a girl scene
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classic yeah that's I haven't seen this movie as much as you have by any stretch of the imagination but I did see in the theaters and that and that's more than I
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can say I caught it on video I don't know if mirax movies were shown in a lot of theaters in Columbus Ohio at the time
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uh so I didn't catch it but I certainly went out of my way to grab it on DVD during college when we had a DVD player
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that was just sort of going all night that movie was playing all night I remember when I saw in the
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theaters I was like mini driver was the mini driver yeah yeah she was the the
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girl that they were after or whatever and I was thinking really is it your opinion that mini
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driver is not an attractive woman no she is I think she looks better now at 50
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than she maybe did it at 20 whatever there's a scene in the movie where she refers to sort of her
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uncharacteristically well outside the norm features uh she refers to how she could be an NBA basketball player and
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it's it's sort of the most unorthodox pillow talk because it was it was at
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some scene where you know she's at Harvard or MIT whichever school she's going to hunting is there with her she's
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just you know talking to him about how she could have played in the NBA and all he really wants to do is is probably
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sleep with her again but uh she tall she is tall I don't know how tall she is
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okay but I mean I'm looking at her picture right now like I it's and this is me just speaking as a teenager cuz I
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saw this when it came came out let's see 93 did I say uh 97797 so I would have been 22 you know
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44y old Ryan wouldn't think like that anymore but you'd be very willing to uh to to give a girl a very intelligent
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girl that may be a few inches taller than the norm champ yeah I'm I'm such a hero yeah well
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and especially she she has a similar attitude in that movie to to him you remember the bar scene where uh she's
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being sort of harassed by a very cocky you know not as more affluent but not as
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intelligent person as Goodwill Hunting and she sort of avoids it and then when he tries to leave without talking to her
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she makes the move on him uh she makes sure that he knows that she's interested
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she doesn't let that sort of thing go by and then she displays some of the sort of goofiness that is inherent in his
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character and they connect in what seems to be like a really real way don't
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connect over over something you know they go to a toy store and they try on
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costumes and you know he asked her to get together and eat a bunch of caramel it's an interesting relationship that
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they're able to develop but she is quirky in the right sorts of ways which
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is a non-traditional you know love story I thought at the time I could not speak to Goodwill Hunting the way he just did
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so that's awesome thank you for that I'll speak to Goodwill Hunting as much as as you'd like it's certainly an imp
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actal movie uh everyone that I sort of drag in my life that I uh make sure that
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they watch it with me and they understand what I you know what I see in some of these very uh impactful scenes
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um from his mistakes that he makes the really egregious mistakes that he makes
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you know how you can sort of see him that he is a very flawed person there's an infinite number of flawed male heroes
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in film history Goodwill Hunting is an example of sort of an unorthodox example of that because he really just he's His
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Own Worst Enemy despite being the type of character that could do anything he
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ever wanted to so this next movie ready yep is my favorite movie that Brad Pit
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has ever produced Brad Pit produced okay hit me
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what what is your favorite Brad Pit so did you know that Brad Pit is a Best Picture Winner uh Brad Pit is the Best
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Picture Winner for what he produced the best picture oh uh was it Argo The
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Departed the dep I didn't know the Brad Pit to produce no I'm thinking been a I'm sorry no The Departed is a great
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movie I had no idea that Bradford had anything to do with it he's he's a producer he's an Academy Award winner
35:14
for winning best pitcher somebody's got to give Brad Pit credit for something at some point right I will say tied for my
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favorite Brad Pit produced film is the assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford I'm glad that go
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through with the entire name of that movie because most people have given up that's an incredible movie by the way
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no I do like that movie it's a little bit long it's a long in the title and it's long in the uh long in the film
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next favorite produced movie by Brad Pit tied for third of a Brad Pit production
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is kickass one and two you know way more about Brad Pitt's
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production filmography than I'll ever know so we're talking about The Departed again I saw I saw this movie not because
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M David but because it was a Martin Scorsese film that had a assemble cast
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which could not be ignoredpr the best cast ever yeah DiCaprio Damon Jack Nicholson Mark
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wallberg Martin Sheen Ray Winstone ver Fara Al Baldwin and of course my
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favorite Anthony Anderson who also starred in uh Jim cares Me Myself and
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Irene well and he's now a pretty big deal on the s season of ABC's blackish
36:30
yeah great show music by Howard shy even who I enjoy this uh this movie when this
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was announced it was a mar scor CC film it was going to be about cop Boston and that's you know of course Matt Dam Mark
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walberg's uh hang out and of course what I love is Matt Damon plays a bad guy he
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does he does and he does it so well he plays a bad guy at the end he plays a
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good guy for three4 the movie or two3 in the movie Leonardo DiCaprio was the bad
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guy and then they they they fli the switch I actually watch this movie on Netflix last night this was one that I wanted to make sure that we could talk
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about the cast in this movie is unheard of I don't think that you could put that
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you could that you could budget a cast like this today and you may point to
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like Infinity war or end the game figure that out well they all probably said
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don't you know just give us the acting minimum budget because we're working with Mars coresi all the other things
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too we're getting to do a mob movie we're getting to do a Boston cop movie just so many elements of this that are
37:39
like fun tropes just all of the different swerves in this movie and you
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see the script and you go holy crap nobody's going to know what's going on people are going to leave this movie not knowing what went on I left this movie
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The First Time not knowing would you tell me who the good guys were at the end I'm not sure you know it was a ride
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it was a really really fun ride you know it's a remake yeah I had heard it was a remake do you know was the first movie
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such a star studed cast no it was a Hong Kong film and now had a maybe maybe yeah
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maybe it was with Hong Kong actors that we're not familiar with so I don't know okay no I wouldn't be able to speak to
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that I did not know it was a remake if it was a remake it would have been a remake of like a rat pack movie and what's crazy it was a remake only four
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years later this was a film in Hong Kong 2002 called infernal Affairs and it
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actually spawned two sequels within the Hong Kong Trilogy I don't know how closy it is but it's enough that it is
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warranted as a remake does that make you feel any differ about no because no no
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nothing right no because if if they gave me the challenge remake The Departed
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Ryan mhm I would suck at it but you know the beats a band can cover a song it's
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not their song but they can suck at the cover and I think that you uh you guys
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did a podcast episode on that if I don't okay so what I mean by that it's it's not their quote unquote idea but how
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many little woman uh movies have we had there's been a lot of adaptions to stories and they still did it well very
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well but I haven't seen the original and I would love to actually because I think it's a great it's a great story and I would love to see it played out with
39:23
different characters sure or different actors I would have no problem with that I wonder if it's it was a Hong Kong
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movie was it Hong Kong police and Hong Kong gangs or or did they still better said it Bost it tells the story the Hong
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Kong version of a police officer who infiltrates a Triad and another officer secretly working for the same gang okay
39:44
so there you go that movie I love The Departed departed was a fantastic movie I did see it in theaters I've gone out
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of my way to seeing it several times afterward it's up there in scorsese's best movies now probably Jack's last
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Jack Nicholson's last great movie probably Jack Nicholson's last great movie Now The Departed was I don't know
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if you can remove Matt Damon's performance from it in order to call it
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one of Matt Damon's best movies he was such a part of The Ensemble and he played off of everyone and Mark Walberg
40:16
was such a dick to him and you know just all the other different ways that he interacted with the other players he was
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is the opposite of alian right he was seventh on that call sheet it's one of these one of
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these things to think about yeah I would call it a Matt Damon Leo film Matt Damon Leo film okay fair enough yeah and Matt
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Damon though he has done a lot of Ensemble movies we'll get to we'll get a a little more into that with a couple
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more get into the higher higher uh higher profiting ones right so the Departed made $365 million had it been
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released today has he been in any other squisy movies now no or is this is only S I think I think this is the only one
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I'm 90% sure which I find surprising I don't know if I find it so surprising I just find that
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as we are talking about this we are going to discuss that Damon has been
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around long enough and he's been a mega star long enough he's getting his pick
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of the best directors to work with he's not missing any of them so right so the
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next one yeah speak the big time directors he works with Ridley Scott a very big-time director in the 2015 movie
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The Martian which is Mars's Castaway Y movie made
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$680 million can you believe $680 million I'm a little
41:38
surprised there's not a lot of cast in that movie no so this is a Matt Damon
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film it's it's it's basically Matt Damon uh chewing up the screen for for 95% of
41:50
it potatoes making potatoes in very or unorthodox ways have you ever made a
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potato in a more Orthodox way Ryan no I've never done it would you would you ever go to Mars yes yeah I would I would
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too I would too you would too but you understand you were in different positions what would your wife and your
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kids think about it uh well they wouldn't be happy but I you take him with you no and that's the thing I guess
42:15
I'm speaking of Ryan would go but not Ryan with the family would go oh okay
42:20
Ryan would not go right alternate universe Ryan would go now I will say
42:25
when this movie was at first announced I actually thought it would have an alien okay fair enough that's the irony of it
42:31
which is kind of cute yeah he is the Martian on on the planet Mars based on a true story did you know I don't believe
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that for one second no but the author who wrote the
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book Andy Weir he tried his darnest to make as much of what he could telling
42:52
that story plausible and I appreciate that it didn't seem like they going
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sci-fi with that movie no I think that's why it was successful as it was too was not just Matt Damon's solo performance
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but the idea that the stress and the reality of of his situation it added more gravitas to the situation because
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it felt real and that's sort of the thing that's been happening off and on
43:17
with Sci-Fi movies if you recall gravity gravity was a sci-fi movie that wasn't
43:23
that that much of a sci-fi movie I want to sand Bullock's character to
43:30
die but it's more important to me that Sandra Bullock continues to walk this plan it very very important to me that
43:37
that happens I don't mind her but I would have a hard time because i' would have a hard time picking just one worst
43:43
film you just hate every movie where she does a Southern accent right oh oh she's just the the bumbling Bumpkin you know
43:51
anyway she wasn't always she wasn't always you remember the net she was pretty fancy pants her best film role
43:58
was Sylvester Stallone when Demolition Man O I really like speed I really like the first speed but I I don't know if
44:05
I'd say that's your best I'd have to dig to it I like in the Martian 2 gravity because it was a sci-fi movie that did
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not go out of its way to invent some new thing that we cannot do that will save
44:18
these characters there was no Captain Marvel rescuing Iron Man from the depths of space this really was about the
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effect of what we're trying to do and what the time will'll take to do it and the effect that that will have on a
44:31
human being to try and do it these Endeavors that we could take going into space this is something that I've always
44:37
sort of been fascinated about sort of this stuff like what was that Chris Pratt Jennifer Lawrence movie where
44:43
they're they're undergoing some sort of a uh passers called passengers there it
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is and it's just basically they're un they're undergoing a milliony year Tre through space and they accidentally wake
44:54
up in the middle of it and that's how it would be right because you're thinking about there's no war speed we don't have
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worm holes to go through we are still dealing with normal human components of
45:06
time and space yeah Chris Pratt woke up Jennifer Lawrence because she was hot but that's the movie I mean if she was
45:13
like I don't know not hot he would have been like survived yeah he would have
45:18
been like I think I'll just take this thing solo right right I'll just Dive by
45:23
myself in this spaceship I didn't even know I was in right or whatever that movie's plot is so that's another
45:29
example of the horror component or the Thriller component being inserted into a
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sci-fi movie right because you are not ignoring the actual science agreed yeah
45:41
that's what makes it sort of you know more interesting and and sometimes horrifying sometimes something to up the
45:46
drama you know when you admit the truth of the circumstances that that makes it
45:51
interesting in a lot of ways and this also won best comedy at the golden gles
45:57
what was your favorite joke in the Martian I don't know exactly it's not exactly Dumb and Dumber
46:05
is it no but yeah it is kind of funny so it won best comedy or musical at the Golden Globes he won best actor in The
46:12
Comedy it was just him in that movie if you're going to vote for anybody from that movie he's going to get it and he
46:18
certainly put the time in I respect him for doing that what are the other movies you can think of that are like very
46:24
dominated did you ever see that uh Ryan Reynolds movie buried no it was a movie
46:29
about him being buried alive yeah did he die oh I don't even remember how it ends I just remember that was 90% looking at
46:36
Ryan Reynold's face it was just an interesting way for them to do a movie that you would have very little
46:42
supporting characters very little than anything else but this one guy it doesn't interest
46:48
me fair enough Martian was a good movie didn't know it was a comedy didn't know it would make 600 million but here we
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are and it's based on a true story okay next I'll thank your word for it Saving
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Private Ryan oh movie came out today and sold as many tickets as it did in 1998
47:06
this movie is a $720 million box office success and why did you go see it well I
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saw this in the theaters of course I would have been 23 when I saw this in the theaters I am a big war buff movie
47:20
guy I like war movies so again I didn't see this because of because of Matt Dame's character of Private Ryan I saw
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this because it was a World War II movie starring Tom Hanks in fact I saw the movie because of Tom Hanks I didn't see
47:32
it because of Steven Spielberg say I saw it because of Spielberg and I saw this in the theaters this came out in when
47:39
did this come out 9898 yeah so I went and saw this uh I was 14 I don't even know was it rated R
47:46
oh yeah it was somehow as a 14year old I got into that movie um I got into that
47:52
movie by myself I went and saw it by myself and I wanted to go see it because of the opening sequence that was what
47:59
drew me in okay people had talked about it I think I had a subscription to Entertainment Weekly at that time I did
48:06
Entertainment Weekly said there's an opening sequence that goes on forever in a day it's it's a movie unto itself it
48:13
not only you know sets the tone for what you're dealing with it is a really visceral experience I'll never ever
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forget that never ever forget seeing opening weekend or second weekend or
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whatever seeing that opening scene I saw in the theater the projection quit during the end battle you're kidding NOP
48:33
you're kidding so what happened they give you all free ticket to come back later they fixed it and gave us free tickets it was about a 15-minute pause
48:40
so it kind of took you out of the out of the action for a bit it was weird the lights came on they were like oh okay what's going on here yeah some some uh
48:48
German cut the film or something I was going to say these days you might almost think that that was planned yeah that
48:56
that's part of the game especially after two and a half hour movie you're sitting there and you're going how does it end does it end like
49:02
that right I think it was right right at the time where we see that tank go near Matt Damon's head at the end there okay
49:10
okay so Matt Damon plays the character Private Ryan who uh gets saved he does he does and why does he get saved
49:16
because his brother died or something or funeral all of his brothers died yeah
49:21
all of his brothers went to war and all of them died so I think was either four or five others and they said we've got
49:28
to grab this one this one kid who he was he was just this dyed kid did not know
49:36
why he was you know the focus of this Mission it was similar to some of his
49:41
other earlier roles I'm sure this this came out within a year of all the other films that you know we talked about in
49:48
the beginning of his career you know now he's the titular character in a Tom Hanks movie and he's got so many great
49:55
actors around you couldn't even start to name and you got Steven Spielberg was this Steven
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Spielberg's first World War II movie or World War II Endeavor well if you don't
50:06
include Schindler's List if you don't you're right if you don't include Schindler's List It wasn't
50:12
a lot of well there wasn't a lot of fighting in Shen's list it was more of a killing yeah yeah just killing just
50:19
killing but you see Spielberg go back to this with band Brothers other things
50:25
that he with Tom Hanks absolutely it sort of this marked the beginning of Spielberg and Tom Hanks being really
50:31
obsessed with telling this sort of story about World War II yeah this is Tom Hanks letting his World War II freak
50:36
flag fly and you know this a hobby that he gets to play out on screen right
50:43
right and his role was amazing and played his which was you know a title
50:48
role but also the supporting he was a supporting character obviously but so again I saw this film because uh of Tom
50:55
Hanks and I like like war movies and the idea that Stephen Spielberg was directing Tom Hanks in a war movie was intriguing but I'm not a big Spielberg
51:02
fan that's a discussion for another podcast goodness I I can't even I know
51:08
I'm an 80s kid and I I hate okay I might have to edit that out because that's going to save it for another episode
51:14
worst how do you feel about Jurassic Park like what's going on man listen to my uh episode about the top grossing
51:22
films okay I guess that's what we'll have to do yeah why you are so wrong
51:27
oh yeah I'm I'm wrong my opinion is always right now
51:34
2014's Christopher Nolan directed $742 million box office crazy numbers
51:41
Interstellar wouldn't calling a mad damage film true it's like Saving
51:46
Private Ryan again in space I don't know if I would even go that far I think that well I mean in Saving Private Ryan Matt
51:52
dam is the Matt Damon is Private Ryan the reveal sure sure it is nice this
51:59
late in Matt Damon's career that he doesn't necessarily have to be on the top billing he he can be a surprise or
52:06
or he can play a character that is not what it first seems that's not typically his role whatsoever right so you're
52:13
absolutely right his significance to the plot of this movie is large but it's a
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mcah movie this is during the MCC Renaissance the MCC connaissance MCC
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connaissance thank you the mcconaissance after Dallas fires club and I really love that first season of True Detective
52:32
it's great it's very easy to rewatch those four episodes or six episodes or whatever but yeah the MCC Renaissance
52:39
was very huge Matt Damon his role in this movie I guess gets it on his list
52:44
but plays another bad guy kind of well I don't know how many times he really even played bad guys at all uh but yeah he
52:50
does he play a bad guy uh well this uh yeah I agree I almost hesitated putting this in but you have to put it in
52:57
because you take away Matt Damon playing who he was playing and it's a great reveal if you went in not knowing he was there you would be like oh it's Matt
53:03
Damon and then you find out he's kind of a dick it takes you back cuz Matt Damon doesn't do this he does a great job
53:10
playing a dark character I.E Talented Mr Ripley when he does do it he does a great job playing a dark person well I
53:17
think it's part of his intelligence and a lot of his characters are able to play
53:22
a I'm better than you I'm smarter than you I figured this out that of a new role he's able to play that off normally
53:30
he does it from a sympathetic perspective where you know despite all of those things he's still sort of down
53:35
on his luck or he hasn't really proved himself but you know when he gets to play a role where he is sort of the
53:41
Super Genius super villain you know there's a lot of people that are less qualified to do that than that he would
53:46
make a great Bond villain okay okay would he have to do a Russian accent Boston he would do a Boston accent for
53:55
his that's hilarious a really good idea well we I don't know if anyone's smart enough from Boston to
54:01
challenge James Bond's intelligence so I we'd have to maybe rethink that you're making um generalizations that are going
54:08
to insult three four three or four by Bostonian listeners and if they have a sense of
54:14
humor like Matt Damon does they're just gonna laugh hopefully okay we would hope so I think that that'd be phenomenal
54:21
that's it's just one of those things I don't know has there ever been a southern Bond villain
54:26
has there ever been a Bostonian Bond they're just generally always Russians
54:32
who do you hate more an hathway or Sandra bolock I hate an hat way more me
54:38
too I think you think so she bugs me she when she but see I don't have any hate for Sandra Bullock a strong word
54:45
position I'm I'm speaking strictly to acting you know not to their not to their people right just to their just
54:51
like you don't have to like nickel back right I'm sure they're all nice individuals outside the band but I don't
54:56
like their music Anne Hathaway when she acts I I something about her is grading
55:02
what was the last thing that Anne hathway was okay in did you see no no are you kidding you didn't see
55:08
oceans 8 okay I thought that she played the right role in that movie because she
55:14
played a dumb really pretty woman I'm surprised they didn't do they
55:20
haven't remade pretty one with an hathway oo now you're giving them ideas cut that out
55:27
she played Catwoman it was she was terrible as Catwoman I think in what movie did she play Catwoman Dark Knight
55:33
Rises oh man yeah I think we all need to forget about that she played Selena Kyle
55:38
Catwoman she was horrible did she put on the outfit yes maybe she kind of wore a little outfit she rolled the motorcycle
55:44
around and we had to pretend she helped I have deleted that scene from my mind all I remember from Dark Knight Rises is
55:51
the Bane voice that's all I remember well Bane was awesome Bane was awesome
55:56
but I don't even remember anything about what he did I just remember his voice he broke Batman's back yeah that's true
56:01
threw him in a pit for a while right yeah now we're get into the last two
56:07
franchises of this list yeah the first franchise of the two that we're going to talk about are the born franchise based
56:13
on the novels the four films are we're not going to talk about them individually we're just going to talk about as a franchise okay the born films
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2002 born identity 289 million born Supremacy 2004 374 million born
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ultimatum 2007 540 million and then 9-year Hiatus Jason Bourne the film 2016
56:39
441 million franchise total $1.64 billion average box office per
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film $411 million soundss about right those movies certainly got a lot of my
56:53
friends at the time to go see them those movies were appealing to a lot of Ages
56:58
they weren't just young people movies uh they were like James Bond for a new generation that's what I took it as yes
57:06
still fighting Russians or people with vaguely Russian accents I'm sorry go ahead no I was just gonna say speaking
57:12
of James Bond the born identity film 2002 actually that's the film where the
57:18
James Bond people were like we got to change our game I believe it that was during the Pierce brosen era that's
57:23
right so 2002 was you know that was 18 years ago so Daniel Craig has not been playing James Bond for 18 years no no no
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it was pierce Rosman until that H Berry movie you know in the mid 2000s I don't
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remember which one that was Casino Casino Royale came out in 2006 four years after in fact both born films the
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first two came out before Casino Royale and it's my understanding that they make
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Casino Royale the way they did because of the way Bourne was filmed the fighting the filming of it the intensity
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of it they're like we can't do James Bond any more Lamer we have to Upper
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anti so you can thank the Resurgence to the James Bond films because of Matt Damon's born films I
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believe that what was the last Bond before the blonde film I think it was that Halle Berry one that I'm thinking
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of and the only thing that I'm thinking of is that she was the Bond girl and she was about 40 she did some scene walking
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out of the ocean with the big on and they all said look at that that's possible Tomorrow Never Dies or
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something Tomorrow Never Dies is that the one I think it might have been that one but it might have been one is yeah I completely understand that the bond
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franchise realizes that needed to instill a little bit of a a revolution to their their movie making the thing
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with the borne movies was that he relied I thought he relied much more on hand to hand yes on then then he did on just
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vague shooting that always hit the target right 1999s The World is Not
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Enough oh Die Another Day came out in 2002 Die Another Day came out the same year of Bor was one with the Madonna
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theme song I remember that one so I think what happened was it was so panned by critics and films that was hell Barry
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the best part of that film was halberry walking out of the the ocean but if you're that crazy about halberry just go
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watch 1998 swordfish very very true very true
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swordfish was a very very good movie for H be yes it was I had a couple
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highlights in that film hey back to back to Born
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maybe you know she got paid $250,000 bonus swordfish to have that 5sec topple
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scene I believe it $50,000 $50,000 a second and you think about different things now like a people do that all the
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time on Instagram for no good reason and B that wasn't even in like HD it wasn't
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HD it was Double D oh very good joke very good joke I'm terrible the born films reinvented the
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Spy Thriller action film we actually have that to think I I believe that I don't think I'm wrong in saying that
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well I think the born films also I don't think anybody ever really doubts this but uh the Marvel superhero movies that
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don't want to rely on sci-fi they got born style hand to hand combat Black
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Widow the Captain America scenes those sorts of things where they are fighting especially the movie Winter Soldier I
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would say has a lot to do with the born movies it was entirely hand-to-hand
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combat other than gigantic uh Sky ships crashing into things it was a spy movie it was a hand
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toand combat movie and was a superhero movie and I think it had a lot to owe to those boring things how to do the
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choreography and how to make it look good so I will say I saw this film The born films in general okay based on Word
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of Mouth I think the first one I probably saw on DVD I don't think I saw in the theaters but because of word of mouth and I thought oh I'll go watch
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this so that was probably the first Matt Damon film that I saw strictly because it was Matt Damon but also because of
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Word of Mouth I had no reason to see it because of the director and then yeah I saw the next three born films because of
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Matt Damon's performance as Jason Bourne was really quite stellar and I would say that yeah that was definitely that was
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that's Matt Damon's um cherry on top of his film career that he really had a
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very successful on his his shoulders franchise do you have any idea whether
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or not Matt Damon took this role because Ben Affleck was taking action roles I
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think so I think they're having a little friendly competition because we know that Ben Affleck had a failed attempt in
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the same spy Thriller category with some of all fears playing the Jack Ryan character he also did reindeer games in
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the late 90s or early 2000s and I thought that was his entry into this genre and I considered this genre to be
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very specifically like something I did not expect the Damon or the athlex of the world to get into they were young
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and you know they could learn the choreography or whatever and they wanted to be Leading Men it seemed me like
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affle got into it before Damon did and it seemed like once Damon did he did it
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maybe as a friendly rivalry maybe as a showing that he can to do these things
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Pearl Harbor changing lanes with I saw changing lanes I really like that movie
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fears and then Ben effi tackled Daredevil he did he tackled Daredevil
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and then he eventually did Jersey girl and I like Ben by the way I think he was an incredible Batman that it was just
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it's not his fault that the scripts weren't that great well he's got the jaw for Batman I really don't know if there's anything else going on
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man and the script would be a part of that for sure okay last franchise yeah
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people are like what franchise what are you guys talking about well dear listeners what could be bigger than the
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born franchise know I know seriously people could it be Oceans 11 2001 632
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million Oceans 12 2004 563 million
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Oceans 13 2007 380 million a franchise total didn't beat the borne films but
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it's one film less it had a higher average so franchise total of $1.57
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billion average box office for the franchise of the oceans film 525 million
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almost 100 or 80 million more than the born films on average so this was a
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completely successful film franchise and smaller budget too by the way the smaller budget is what surprises the
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heck out of me how is that possible how can you figure out how to pay Damon and pit and Clooney and then
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at the end of the day Roberts and Willis and Don cheel actually became a person
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you know of note throughout this series this was an emble cast Bernie Mack had
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to have a tag attached to him how on Earth did they spend less money on this
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maybe it's just because of the way that the direction was handled soberg knew
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what he was doing they were not wasting money on there certainly weren't any explosions or action scenes it was more
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how do you make these guys look incredibly sve and incredibly clever how do you shoot this in the right way and I
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think he knew what he was doing to me this deserves its spot on top of Matt Damon's best movies even though I
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wouldn't call it a Matt Damon movie i' call it a George Clooney movie Matt Damon has had a whole career of not
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having Matt Damon movies judging by this list how many on this list would you call Matt Damon movies and we've talked
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about one it's the Martian there's some others that we don't like those are Matt D movies this I wouldn't call Matt Dame
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movie but he but he shines because he gets to be the smart one yes when he gets to be the smart guy he gets to show
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everybody else up they're better looking and they've bagged more chicks but at
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the end of the day they need to go ask Matt Damon so that they can actually accomplish their goal whatever their goal might be they're fun films they
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yeah they're really fun films clever films well written like you're saying the their heists are stressful like I
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like how are they going to do it how are they going to do this and they do it and I get and I get stressed out you know watching this like how they going to pull us off you know something always
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goes wrong and they figure out how to do things on the Fly and you got George cloney Brad Pit just being as handsome
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as ever and yeah it's um yeah fun films fun films good movies and I think you
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know for Matt Damon to be able to when was the first one when was the first o 11 2001 I mean he had been in Saving
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Private ran he had been around these great actors but yeah it was only three years after saving pra Ryan he wasn't
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like the huge mega star but he got to be in the room with all the me all the mega
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star after Oceans 11 in 2001 A year later he was in the born franchise so it's crazy how quickly things can uh
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increase for somebody he got the right role for him with the Oceans 11 movies
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there's a lot of Backstage commentary about uh discussions about they knew what cast They want but they weren't
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quite exactly sure who they wanted to play what roles it's my understanding
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that there was some talk about Matt Danon playing the Brad Pit role can you
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even imagine that maybe you could maybe you could just to play a a much more
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Charming version of of the character that he was playing there are some talks about that about people that they knew
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that they were going to have involved in the movie they weren't exactly sure which role they would play until maybe
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later now obviously Oceans 11 movies are remakes as well right maybe I would ask
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how many of these movies that we're talking about our remakes maybe just one or two but I think just the ocean film
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there was a born movie in 1988 did you know about this no I guess I did there
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was a it may have been an American made for TV movie but you can Google this and
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you can find that they made a adaptation of the born identity 13 years before
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Matt Damon did it oh wow um maybe some of the things that he's done have been remakes and maybe that's been convenient
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for him I I think at the end of the day we just look at this and we go how did Matt Damon get to work with Soderberg
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Spielberg Nolan scorsi just go down the list right oh yeah here it is here yeah
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it was a miniseries yeah sry Richard Chamberlain and Jacqueline Smith uhuh it
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showed on ABC there you go yeah wow it is the exact same beats as the first
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born movie so it's just that same plot if you had seen that in 1988 you knew exactly how the movie in 2001 was going
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to happen huh uh I hadn't seen it so I didn't this is the twist we still need
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to made maybe Damon made just all of the right decisions and so maybe what we're
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talking about on this top 10 list is we should be thanking his agent or praising his praising his
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manager all the above you know for the very smart uh you know decisions
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decisions not including um downsized by the way well yeah yeah yeah we could do
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a whole podcast on the misses of Matt Damon's career but we uh this is the worst of the best so this these are the
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films that top the box office that had Matt Damon's name on the poster to some degree or another he was part of the
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success he chose correctly and acted correctly in these big films so out of
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these top films and we're using the born and of course the oceans films as like a
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one film category which one if you had to pick one to take away
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from your movie playlist to never see again and it wouldn't break your heart too much I want to recap them can we
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recap oh yeah that's that's a good idea so we got True Grit it for a second True Grit elisium uhhuh Goodwill Hunting The
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Departed the Martian Saving Private Ryan Interstellar and then the Bourne films
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and the ocean films well for me this is easy the answer is alium alium doesn't
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have any resonating significance to me uh it had an interesting story but like I said I I don't rewatch it because I
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don't really enjoy seeing it truth would be I know that this was a Matt Damon movie
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you know as a starring vehicle and it did tell some interesting story but it's not my favorite uh it's my least
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favorite out of M all right that's fair it is fair in fact I was working on this
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this list at work a strong list it's very difficult it is but a coworker saw my list as as I was making this at work
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he's like what are you working on I'm like podcast stuff you know on the on the government's dime it it was lunch
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break hey come on it was lunch break uh that being said he he picked no it's all fine so he picked alysium as well when
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he saw the list when he heard the concept of course he doesn't listen to my show because nobody does but he he
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picked alysium so he agrees with you but I don't okay this guy sounds like a
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really good dude connect me to his podcast and if I can chat with him he's
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not bright or smart enough or funny enough to do a podcast he's noad Damon that's he's no noad Damon here we go my
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least favorite doesn't mean it's a bad film sometimes our worst picks are just truly bad stuff but in this situation
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there's no real stinker in this list per se but this film I barely got through it
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in fact I read the book first and I stopped reading the book I was so bored and that was the Martian the Martian
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fair enough Tom Hanks did it better on Castaway on Castaway yeah now this
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doesn't take away from Matt Damon's acting I think this has to do more with the story and the location the
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ironically being trapped on an island on earth I found more fascinating study and Tom Hanks
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performance of that loneliness more compelling than being
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stuck on a planet of Mars I can see that I really can I mean this movie comes
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across as boring to people it is boring I it maybe it too sciency maybe you know what and maybe
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it's great I think there's some people who genuinely enjoy that kind of stuff I don't care how it
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works you don't care that they got it perfectly right that they that they were very accurate uh in in the movie no I I
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get that I no I I want to see my food replicator on TV right right you want to
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see him just taking a pill every day and that gives him his nutrients move on sure we're not worried about how he's
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getting his Nutri I I would have been just as happy had the Starship Enterprise beamed them off the
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planet or the same thing which is Captain Marvel rescues Iron Man from floating in space which don't get me
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started on Captain Marvel well I would like to get you started I think we should do a podcast on Captain Marvel
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there's a lot to say about that but there's no Matt Damon in Captain Marvel we have to leave it there oh my gosh
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that's all we that's all we need is a superhero who's angry at the world G she
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anyway know tell us how you really feel Ryan well I I just hope in the Captain Marvel part
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two they give the one ability that Captain Marvel doesn't have in these films which is to smile and to have a
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personality Charisma exactly Charisma have a personality oh my gosh yes you
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are able to save planets but I the worst part of the of end game is when she goes you're not the only earth oh shut up
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that's right she did say that very snippy it was very snippy and part of me is like yes but we're on this one this
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is the one we occupy Sor it's not the one that you're saving get out of here go save the other planets we don't need
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you we will be having a Marvel podcast soon oh my gosh okay so there you go
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it'll be the best of Ryan's worst oh so there you go that is our Matt Damon
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episode I want to thank our guest host Drew thank you so much for coming on and filling in for Ruben and we hope to have
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you on again absolute pleasure thank you so much for inviting me to talk about one of my favorite actors since I was a
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child Matt Bon that's awesome remember in front of every Silver Lining there's a cloud and we're here to help you find
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