The Worst of the Best Podcast

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you guys are consummate professionals so I have no doubt and this is a debut for
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both of us right yeah well let's get into it we'll talk about now okay already okay welcome to the worst of the
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best podcast you wanted the best well they didn't freak him naked so here's
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what you get from Canada Ryan and Reuben [Applause]
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all right welcome everyone to the worst of the best podcast I am your host or
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one of the hosts Ryan Rubin boy that sounds like a hunk only theme of my podcast but Riven isn't here
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today he gave full permission and blessing though that I got some guest hosts with me today for this show as with all things in life first with the
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Christmas season upon us he's very busy with his business and his family activities and were three hours apart
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which just makes record is difficult for his timings and my time is of life but with me I have a very good I would say
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friends the brothers that I haven't met in real life from other mothers but people that I've podcast with on my
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other rocky series podcast so you listeners who listen to this podcast know these voices very well but if
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you're only a worse at the best podcast listener I have with me Doug from the rocky minute podcast and Craig from the
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slide cast podcast what do you guys go ahead and introduce yourself my name is Doug I'm one of the hosts of the rocky
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minute where we go through the Rocky movies we analyze one minute of movie footage at a time it's very daunting but
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you know it's very rewarding and fun and I've had both of these fine gentlemen guest host on my show as well
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yeah and I'm Craig from the sly cast and what we do is we are chronologically
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traveling through Stallone's filmography from his very first movie to his very
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current movie we're taking our time getting there it's been a great experience and it's how I met these two
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gentlemen so uh been a really rewarding podcasting experience awesome well guys
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I'm really excited that you're on the show today without further ado like we do on this podcast room to get right into it the
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topic today is Robert De Niro films his top grossing films this guy has been in a lot of movies what's your general
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feeling about him as an overall actor I like him for the most part I think he's pretty versatile I'm not crazy about his
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comedy stuff although you know some of its good I think he's a real versatile actor in real life I think he's a little
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strange I've seen him in interviews where he's just I don't know just a bore
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but I die but on screen playing a character I think he's he's really he's
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he's a fine actor really fine actor yeah you know I mean it's hard to not be
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aware of what an important actor De Niro is when you're around our age he's become a
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little bit of a joke in the probably the last 20 years which is crazy to say but
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if you look at his early body of work I mean he's considered one of the finest American actors that we've had and you
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know rightfully so I mean I I do agree with Doug that I think his versatility is pretty remarkable and also his
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commitment to parts I guess it's that method Craig we lost Craig Craig II back he's
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frozen look at that face well I don't I don't want to say it's my turd that if
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we before see each other dog but I want to point the finger a crazy place man
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Craig oh man I'll just have to rejoin I don't know how it works
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we'll get him back in yeah he's gonna reboot II said so we'll just continue we'll just suppose I didn't hear the end
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of his De Niro spiel he was just saying that the same thing that last 20 years
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he's kind of gone weird all right he's an interesting character because I've never gone out of my way to
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see it the knurl film cuz he's in it mm-hmm that makes sense there are other actors that I do do that for obviously
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Stallone Kurt Russell comes to mind or a Quentin Tarantino film there's certain that directors and actors I specifically
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go see regardless of who else is in the film it just so happens that De Niro has been in so many films that I've seen
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those films as well and we'll talk about some of those films of course there's very few films I don't think I've ever
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gone to watch because he's in it the thing about him is he's done so many different types of films from mob movies
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which I think he's most known for it to like rom-coms and I'm not gonna seek out a De Niro film like the intern that
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subject matter doesn't interest me but if you tell me De Niro is gonna be in a mob movie De Niro is gonna be in a
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military-style movie like Men of Honor I'll watch that because I think he's such a great actor and I especially the
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mob movies I mean that's that goes without saying he's gonna nail those roles because that's what he's most known for I think
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did you watch the irishman yet not yet man I've the three or what is it three
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and a half or three like three hours and 40 minutes or almost it's gonna have to
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be broken up into segments because I kid sit watch a three and a half hour movie in one sitting so I think that's what
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has kept me from watching it so far it's just the length of it but I've heard mostly good things the only negative I
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heard about it is that it gets low in pots but I mean it's a three and a half hour movie would you can't have
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wall-to-wall action and I also think that people are expecting a typical DeNiro mob movie with a lot of violence
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and a lot of bloodshed which I don't think this has no not a lot I was actually surprised by it not in a bad
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way but after you know good fellows and what have your gangs in New York with Martin Scorsese you've directed films or
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even The Departed those work depended on violence but they certainly had this had violent moments throughout I really
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enjoyed the Irishman I really did I thought the de-aging was actually so
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well done the only not the bad thing about it but only because I don't know the ages of the actual characters
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necessarily so it was hard for me sometimes to tell what timeline I was
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looking at because it jumps timelines a little bit so I had a hard time like what you know what timeline is this
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necessarily but the D agent was actually so good that I forgot how old De Niro
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was or is it that makes sense it looked like a lot of like between 85-95 De Niro
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like Goodfellas yeah or casino era cos you know and
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Craig actually brought this up as a good point during one of our recordings on the rocky series podcast when we're
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talking about a skate plan he mentioned that one of his fears or one of the things that he was going to look for in
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the Irish Man with a DEA agent was to see if they still moved like older men even though their faces are younger and
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that did happen but it's not a criticism this is the reality that we age that's
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kind of how I looked at it the D aging on the faces really worked it did help tell the story and use the actors and
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hear their voices their mannerisms that Joe Pesci has an Al Pacino has by the way Al Pacino was amazing in the Irish I'm there was
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some scenes where I say okay that's a 75 year old man walking walking yeah but outside the grocery store when he
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confronts the grocery store owner yes that was probably the most egregious it
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was weird cuz he's probably supposed to be playing like a 40 like my age a 45 year old father obviously I don't move
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that way so I don't know why they didn't just use a stunt double from behind it was a panned out shot too
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it looked like it was a little above 2 didn't it have all the money they spent you think they could have just gotten a
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a body double or even just you know they superimposed the face anyways but it was it was a faraway shot of him beating the
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crap out of somebody why didn't they just anyways but that's two little small details like we're looking for a perfect film and I think the Irishman I love a
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documentary type film I love mafia type stuff I love the history stuff all those things I enjoy so for me as a viewer and
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I did watch it in five different sittings which I don't care about I just watched it like a miniseries and it was
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a great story I really really enjoyed it when I saw that they had teamed up to
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make this I actually went out and got the book I'll read the book so I was kind of aware of Frank Sheeran story
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still going in I kind of knew all the beats it was gonna hit that didn't affect my enjoyment though I mean you're
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watching that movie to see Scorsese do what Scorsese does and to see DeNiro
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under Scorsese's direction the return of Joe Pesci which was just yeah amazing to
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watch and what a gift he gave us and like you said Pacino I mean I can't understand anybody who says Pacino
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didn't deliver in this movie it's one of my favorite Pacino performances of all time I watched it in one sitting
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me and my wife I look forward to watching again and I think the de-aging there were a handful of times where it
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was distracting and I think that was more a result Ryan of how they did it I know we've talked about Captain Marvel
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here and I know you haven't seen it yet until they give brie Larson the personality filter yes please but that
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movie for that movie they'd eh Sam Jackson and I think the normal da geing
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technology and movies requires you to wear stuff and De Niro said I'm not doing that so the special effects team
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had to find another way to sort of map De Niro's face and it was all just I think just dots
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and so they used all that for reference for lighting and stuff so I think any time the technology reveals itself it
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was more the effects people trying to figure out how to make a shot work because they didn't have the normal tools that they had for like a Sam
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Jackson but I think that technology is really promising I hope it doesn't become like a thing where like it's
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constantly being used but I think for a movie like this it was essential because
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you couldn't really go back and forth with different actors playing them a
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different time so I think this technology is a good solution for that unless you're gonna do like an extreme
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time-jumped like you did in like De Niro's Godfather to where you have Marlon Brando playing one version and De
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Niro playing the other but seems like this films a little polarizing I know our buddy Mike Conda is not a fan it's
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his opinion I love seeing De Niro in movies like this and it was a joy to watch I just
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read online here that they're doing the same D aging process with Tom Lee Jones
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they're gonna set him back 50 years from now he's gonna look 75 these are the top
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grossing films because I realized that Joker's not including this list and and I don't know if that would necessarily
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count it's not really a Robert De Niro vehicle he's he is an actor in the film
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he's second billed in the film we have listeners probably listening to this episode who are strictly Robert De Niro
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fans the worst the best is a unique podcast because we'll get a lot of bumps from different topics depending on the
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fandom of certain actors and celebrities or bands that we cover I would suspect some Robert De Niro listeners you listen
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to this episode they might want to hear our thoughts on the Joker have you guys seen the Joker nope oh okay well the
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Joker is a must-see I will say that I really do think it's a good film I mean I love the film but in fact my DVD order
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is already in for the blu-ray 4k I will say De Niro's performance it was really good he played kind of a mixture between
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Johnny Carson and Jerry Lee Lewis type talk-show host mixed with David Letterman so that was his character
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Jerry Lee Lewis do I say it wrong Who am I thinking of well you just did a mash-up between the sad clown dude yeah
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that was Jay Lewis Jerry Lewis my pole yeah Jerry Lee Lewis was the piano player right 13-year
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old yeah that's right his cousin or something it's 13-year old cousin Yeah right it was a second cousin oh that's
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okay okay wait are we are we worried about the incest or the age which one is I just finished reading a book
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it's about rock stars that behave badly and one of the chapters was devoted to Jerry Lee Lewis and in addition to
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marrying his thirteen-year-old second cousin he probably murdered two of his wives oh wow Jerry Lee Lewis great bar
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dude yeah yeah oh man that's amazing well we could probably at some point do the worst of the best Jerry Lee Lewis
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killings yeah RRR deplorable acts which one was the worst okay well let's get
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into it so the Joker isn't on this list because I don't know if it's considered a Robert De Niro vehicle well let's get
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right into number 20 number 20 this had a lifetime gross of forty seven and a half million dollars this is Francis
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Ford Coppola's 1974 sequel to The Godfather film Godfather Part two this
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film won six Oscars including the Best Supporting Actor Oscar for Robert De Niro is there any list this is kind of a
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spoiler but this is there any list where the Godfather Part two would be the worst of never yeah absolutely not even
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even on a list of Godfather movies it would be the worst stuff one of the rare sequels that a lot of time is known as
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better than the original have you guys heard about that Godfather cut the word it pieces together Godfather Part one
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and two into one film in the chronological order it was actually in
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the late 70s I believe it was released on TV as The Godfather the complete novel for television that's right it was
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cut together to be shown chronologically we actually covered that when we were doing rocky 2 because Talia Shire was
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between rocky one in rocky to that edition of The Godfather cut together
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was shown on TV so that was one of her projects in between even though everything was recorded but everything
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was done beforehand it wasn't put out into theaters it was I think was just done for TV yeah and that's crazy I really wish they
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would release that I know there's some cuts out there somewhere so any of our listeners want to send me a link that'd
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be amazing so the Godfather Part 2 came out 74 one year after Mean Streets was out so dinner was really not a actor
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actor yet so the fact that he landed this role and knocked out of the park this is his third film really and he
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doesn't speak English in it right it's crazy all Italian that's crazy okay and
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this cements or this starts that well I guess me Street sort of did but the tough-guy persona kind of everyday mafia
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man type persona the De Niro carry throughout many films later in his career okay Doug go ahead with number 19
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number 19 is Men of Honor Robert De Niro a Gooding jr. movie based on the story
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of Master Chief Petty Officer Karl Brasher the first black American master diver in the US Navy I saw this once I
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enjoyed it but I only saw it once you know I think I saw in the theaters mmm I think I saw it on DVD what's your
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feelings on old Cuba there I liked him up until he played that kid in radio I just I hated him in that I
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don't know if he was just like on an Oscar trying to run for these oscar-winning roles but I hated him in
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radio I thought it was like a terrible portrayal of a of a handicapped person
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you know you get that line of Tropic Thunder that I won't repeat that Robert Downey jr. says about chasing Oscars
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exactly yes that came out 2000 and had a
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box office of 83 million dollars so I was no slouch at the box office number 18 we had the deer hunter which
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grossed 48 million and changed mural led an all-star cast including Christopher Walken and Meryl Streep in The Deer
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Hunter a 1978 war drama from director Michael Cimino the universal film earned
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De Niro an Academy Award nomination for Best Actor though he ultimately lost to Jon Voight in coming home that year
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which was another Vietnam movie deer hunter intense intense film don't you see this this is one of my de niro
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regrets Ono is yeah I've never seen it and it's always been on my list of things I know I have to see and I just
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never come around to see it yet so this has a lifetime of about 49 million dollars it is an
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incredible film I wants to give any spoilers to Doug or any of our listeners I can't imagine any Robert De Niro listeners of the Doug but I was a little
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bit late coming to this party to I mean because I go saying before Craig when you dropped off there saying this to the
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Doug our listeners I'm not a Robert De Niro fan and says I go see a film because he's in it
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I see films that he's in The Deer Hunter is such a film where I knew of its
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classicness I knew of its how it was revered amongst movie goers and Christopher Walken's performed is
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incredible so this was a an incredible incredible film there's one sequence and
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I won't spoil it but they do a Russian Roulette sequence it is one of the most stressful things on film you'll ever
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watch it's and De Niro's performance that will blow your mind every time I see him perform at his
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Robert De Niro nice he's one of a kind alright number 17 this movie was critically panned but it
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actually did well the the box office hide-and-seek found De Niro playing dad to a young Dakota Fanning at the time I
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have never heard of this movie yeah I remember when it came out I needed to go to Fanning she was the hot kid actor for
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a while Oh easy well I mean in terms of like you know you had Macaulay Culkin and he has crazy well in demand yeah hey
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are avatar Epstein episodes later I recall when this came out and I think I
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saw this when it was when it hit cable yeah so this movie only had 25 25 million dollar budget but it did well at
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the box office making one hundred and twenty three million dollars at the box office Wow I don't think I saw it I feel like I
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may have but it came out fourteen years ago and it's probably one of those thriller you know what I'm gonna say
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that I've seen it but not enough that I can comment on so this would be one that we could talk about but I we can't
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really put up as a worse because I don't I don't have enough feeling on the matter there to say all right number 16
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this one is directed by Penny Marshall it opened in December of 1992 a measly
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four hundred seventeen thousand dollars but was a critical hit in garnered three Academy Award nominations including Best
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Actor for this gentleman right here we're talking about it is the movie awakenings I know I've
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seen but I for the life of me I can't remember anything about it wasn't Robin Williams doctor in that movie yes this
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is one of the roles that Robin Williams was doing where he plays the straight man for him you know he plays it straight as a doctor he probably has
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some very Robin Williams moments in it but this is where De Niro was coming out of a catatonic
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type state and Robin Williams is he discovers a certain stimuli that will reach beyond the patient's respective
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states and Robert DeNiro is one of those people that comes out of that you know comes out of his state and awakens you
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know wakens to the world around him I did see this movie when it came out so I would've been you know my late teens when I watched it so I did appreciate it
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when it came out it's when I was becoming an older young person like I could watch movies that aren't just action fare or silly comedies this is
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one of those first films where I could appreciate the drama and the storytelling in I could I have a soft spot for it again I didn't know De Niro
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the way I know him now so when I saw when I saw this movie I was probably seeing it because Robin Williams like I
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knew Rob Williams from back to Morton from Mork and Mindy so I followed his career more than I followed the Narrows at this point my life I enjoyed this
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movie it's it's a movie prop I probably haven't seen since it came out if you have time and you're able to find it
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Howard Stern at the time he had a show on wor which Doug will know channel 9
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the Howard Stern Show and he was up in arms about De Niro's performance and
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said that anybody could do it so he did a parody of it called awaking up if you could find it via Google it's
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pretty funny all right that's awesome thank you for that that's awesome yes okay number 15 we have the Kevin Bacon
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Brad Pitt Dustin Hoffman and Minnie Driver joining DeNiro for sleepers a
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1996 revenge thriller from director Barry Levinson Barry Levinson kind of a
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funny director that guy he's done films I really enjoy and done films that are really terrible but this movie actually
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made it but it's 166 million so it was it was a box-office hit it only costs 44
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million so almost tripled its budget look at the cast though you got Kevin Bacon De Niro Dustin Hoffman Jason
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Patric and Brad Pitt 1995 I kind of have a soft spot for those 90s films I don't
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know why but I really enjoyed the boom DVD boom era of the 90s and this was a
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movie that I saw a DVD I genuinely liked this film but it deals the tough subject matter about priests molesting boys is
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my understanding this was before it was mainstream the whole Catholic priests
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you know you know touching boys thing this was one that stuck with me once in
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a while these movies come along that are like tackles such a disturbing subject matter that you really can't go back to
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it too often cuz it just affects you and depresses you and this is one of those movies for me it was a you know good in
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its own right but it stuck with me and it I'd never really had the desire to go back to it just know because yeah
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there's certain films that you see wants to appreciate the journey and the storytelling but yeah it's not the
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feel-good movie of the year number fourteen new this is timely New Year's
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Eve that now De Niro it didn't play a big role in this it was kind of a sambal cast picture it's one of those Garry
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Marshall films he did one for Valentine's Day as well he was acting opposite hell berry sorry Hal Barry as a
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sick man hoping to watch the ball drop not his isn't the e a hardy Hallie I
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said how Allah Berry Halle Berry Halle that's what I thought unless I've been saying it wrong for
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twenty years oh man I could've been saying it wrong I don't know if we shave inclusive list but it it did well I
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guess must be included okay so New Year's Eve did anyone see this
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movie yeah I think I've seen it in various watching in 20 minute chunks on
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HBO right this was a time in generals career 2011 where he's kind of popping
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up in these kind of light-hearted or comedy type films this is a huge-ass omble cast is ridiculous everyone from
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Seth Meyers the Jon Bon Jovi do you remember the trend though around this time we're like Garry Marshall was
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making yeah movies just bait there's Mother's Day there's Valentine's Day I think like it got so out of hand it's
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ridiculous absolutely ridiculous Garry Marshall the brother is you know out of Penny Marshall who to the weekends yeah
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yeah yeah this Mother's Day New Year's Eve Valentine's Day those were his three
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there uh he says some terrible movies he also what co-created Happy Days yeah I think
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so yeah yeah oh boy The Good Shepherd guess that's me unless you want to skip over New Year's Eve and do this one no well
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no we just talked about it's over we're done yeah all right De Niro directed this one The Good
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Shepherd stars Matt Damon Angelina Jolie CIA filmers II received mixed reviews
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and despite a prime award season release from Universal was Oscar nominated only
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once for art direction also had a Joe Pesci came out of retirement yet did
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they age Pesci in this one yeah if I remember the big glasses and he page was
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playing an older an older character I never went to see this one I believe I
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watched it I know I did I will say that probably a well made film but not very
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memorable mm-hmm I saw it in theaters and you know there was that trend around that time where they were making all
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those kinds of movies like I think George Clooney made Syriana there were a couple of those like political intrigue
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movies yeah I got it this is where the politics of the actors can kind of get
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mixed up in the film's like we talked about George Clooney in Syriana where actors pretend like they have anything
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worthwhile to say regarding world politics or week sometimes criticized them for their political stances but at
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the same time you know they're able to get into doors that we can't get into at the same time this was post 9/11 type
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stuff I wonder if this movie would have been made had 9/11 not happen who knows yeah all right number 12 with a lifetime
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growth of 67 million we have DeNiro reteaming with his Godfather Part two co-star Al Pacino for Michael Mann's
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1995 crime drama heat the critically acclaimed film has been named among IMDb's 250 greatest films of all time
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it's number one 20 out of 250 and ranked number 5 on its list of the 100 best crime movies of all time all still one
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of Val Kilmer's best performances that is in Tombstone agreed agreed or Willow
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I was surprised this wasn't ranked higher it didn't bring in more in the box office I mean well it means for
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adjustment I think it made 188 million was it was a big deal when it came out because yeah hero and Pacino yeah
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sharing this is green yeah because they were in the Godfather Part two but they never shared a scene together obviously
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yeah I mean yeah they shared the screen for the first time ever and I remember it being a big deal at the time
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this was a scene where they're at the coffee table or whatever the cafe sit across from each other and that was a big moment that was kind of like the
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Stallone Schwarzenegger meeting of the to draw biggest drama actors they had the same kind of rival Pacino De Niro
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were the two major mafia or Italian actors this was 24 years ago if you can
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believe it oh yeah boy you know the mutual respect between lawman and criminal was I don't think I've ever
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seen anything like that on film before you know at least the way these guys did it was incredible yeah and of course
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that big shootout at the end with yeah man yeah yeah the whole time you wonder
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like what would happen if you know if it came to blows like would he do it would he not do it yeah good film and that big
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shootout was based in part on a real-life la Banque rock the one in the middle of the street yeah yeah yeah yeah
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the North Hollywood shootout that is an amazing story and this was actually a very huge popular movie when it came out
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I'm actually kind of surprised by it but again we have a reuniting of sorts with Marlon Brando and Robert De Niro in the
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2001 movie the score because it marked Brando's final film role De Niro and him
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both won Oscars portraying the same character which is interesting the Godfather franchise but now they're
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sharing the screen for the first time the score opened at number two at the box office it was just behind Reese
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Witherspoon's Legally Blonde so this was a very successful movie uh financially at the time and I didn't see
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this in the theaters I did see this on video directed by the voice of Yoda and
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the industry oh yeah and I think this was Ryan for the fact that I mean
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nowadays we might not see it but at the time Edward Norton was considered one of the most promising actors of his
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generation so you had three generations of serious actors in the same film
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together it was almost like a three-way passing the torch there was a time that Edward Norton was the Ryan Gosling now ed
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Norton's turn into Ed Burns yeah oh god I haven't thought about it burns in Wow
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but this was coming out I thought it was gonna be something huge and I tried convincing myself after seeing it the
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first time what a great movie it was and I watched it a second time I was like
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Marlon Brando didn't give a crap he just wanted a paycheck and if I remember correctly he had an earpiece every scene
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in this movie so somebody was reading his law into his ears that he would just repeat I think it was eating the
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earpiece you thought it's a Reese's
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Pieces no it's a your eerie piece it's not everything oh man that's all I could take I'll see
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you fellas leave it are we going to the intouchables now yeah all right we're
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DeNiro plays the legendary crime boss Al Capone in the 1987 crime drama The
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Untouchables based on the book of the same name co-starring the great Sean Connery who earned an Academy Award for
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Best Supporting Actor I think everybody's seen pictures of Al Capone in the past and I think Al Capone
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although De Niro did a good job in this film I thought he was horribly miscast I see more Robert De Niro than anything
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closely resembling what you know we know is Al Capone did you like the film yes I
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liked the phone a lot I remember enjoying this film I'm a big Brian De Palma and I think he always makes
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interesting films if nothing else my biggest takeaway from this though is I believed in the film Trainspotting they
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have a whole conversation about how Sean Connery didn't deserve the Oscar for this and it was pretty much just a
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lifetime achievement Oscar based on all the work he had done prior to it it's a pretty funny it's a pretty funny scene
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in that movie and that might be true and I don't mind that people do that to recognize somebody's work that actually
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happened speaking of God the De Niro connection and the Irishman that happened with Morrow Scorsese's in the
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Martin Scorsese has been robbed may ties with both greater films ie Goodfellas in
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1990 giving him the film for the department I think was their way of saying you know what screw it here's
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your Oscar for Best Director you have it on your mantle move on same thing with the revenant for Leo yeah that wasn't
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his best film no he had a better performance the wolf of Wall Street mm-hmm but Debbie said with this film
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guys I'm gonna say The Untouchables is one of my favorite films of all time I fell in love with it as a teenager I loved Kevin Costner I'm a Kevin Costner
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mark you know I had liked him as a young come Dances with Wolves I guess I was at that age where I'd like the movies that
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he was in he did these epic type movies from there you know as Sean Connery was in this I enjoyed him of course from
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James Bond days so see him playing this character who kind of mentors Kevin Costner's Eliot Ness was fun to watch and this was actually the first movie
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where De Niro was De Niro for me so that was my kind of first real exposure cuz I
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was 12 years old when this came out and I watched it at that age that much to do the demise of my parents probably because this is quite a final movie and
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I remember watching this thing apply like this violence not in a but I liked what it did to the reaction I got in his
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young teenager you know seeing De Niro take a bath somebody's head at the dinner table I remember watching that like whoa what
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did I just see here so it kind of entered into the braver form of drama so I watched the Godfather's afters that
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was kind of my Robert De Niro I think exposure was seen him as Al Capone's always got a kind of a special place I didn't know him as Robert De
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Niro so seeing them play uncle Paul wasn't it made sense to me because I didn't know the De Niro character so to
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speak and you've got that great scene with the baby carriage yes I love it yeah tremendous all right number nine
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backdraft I saw this in the theaters Ron Howard a great director he's done some great films especially in the 90s if you were
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gonna make a movie about firefighters and make it thrilling somehow I feel backdraft did did that this was a big
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box office hit Kurt Russell one my favorite actors still to this day one of my favorite actors I love Kurt Russell I
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love this film and De Niro played basically Fire Investigator kind of a side role it wasn't really a starring
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role another a Samba type cast film yeah my father was a career firefighter this
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really excited when this came out he brought us to the theaters to see it it really was like right up his alley as
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are fetched as it may seem as a movie it is thoroughly enjoyable I watched it many times since then it's
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goofy completely unrealistic but I like this movie a lot yeah yeah it's another
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movie it's a product of its time it's you know it fits right in with that era that you were talking about earlier Orion eight is Cape Fear Martin
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Scorsese's 1991 remake of Cape Fear marked the seventh of eight collaborations between the filmmaker and
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Robert De Niro the leading man was nominated for an Academy Award and Golden Globe for Best Actor while the
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film was nominated for the Golden Bear at the 42nd Berlin Film Festival hello I
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did a college project based on this movie just throughout the film they focus on his eyes a lot it is creepy to
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the core even like the very before he drowns in the end all you see above the
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water is is his eyes before he finally goes down and it's just it creeps you
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out big-time Juliette Lewis who De Niro's character goes after and basically tries to sexually assault
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throughout the movie she's only two years older than me if you can believe it so when I saw this as a teenager I had the mad crush on her I totally had a
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crush on Julia Louis I was like yeah and I saw her course in Natural Born Killers and other great films I loved you Lewis
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and I've always had a soft spot for her but I would have been 16 when this film came out and she would've been 18 in this film if you can't believe it she
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was playing 16 though right which which it's less if you do either one of those
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cases to where a remake isn't considered inferior to the original and I'm not if
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you really call it a remake because there it's based on a book right so anytime of a movies based on a book
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people always say oh it's a remake well it's it's another adaptation either way this is one of those movies where both
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versions are considered sort of successful great Nick Nolte playing the father yeah is an area
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have you guys seen him in the mandalorian well yeah he doesn't look
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like him though that makeup job is totally inspired by they based it on the
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way McNulty looks that's not him under the makeup though is it no they definitely made a mask a nick nolte mask
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I have spoken I love Nick Nolte I've
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seen a lot of his films I enjoy him but I watch them with caption songs I don't understand a word he's saying
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7 is it my turn yeah ok no my turn GE Bros I got lost go ahead Bradley
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Cooper and DeNiro together before they were in silver linings playbook it's a nail-biter directed by Neil burger and
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it took home an award for Best thriller at the 2011 scream Awards and this is a movie where like Bradley Cooper he gets
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like a pill one of those plays ah no we only use 10% of our brains and this pill allows him to use all of it and since
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turned it into a TV show but like he goes on to become a eventually a pretty high-ranking politician yeah I never saw
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the TV show got canceled after one season though this all wasn't limitless it was limited limited release I never
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saw this films this came out 2011 and I wasn't a big Bradley Cooper fan at the time he's kind of like a young handsome
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De Niro to me in that I don't mind Cooper I just don't go see movies because he's in it so you got two actors
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in this film De Niro and Cooper both actresses that I don't mind watching but I don't go out of my way to go watch I'm
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not a big fan of the movies where narcotics or a chemical something another makes people do things that are
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kind of in a way superhero-ish I understand but it's just like okay so
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he can jump far run fast or be a little bit stronger because of a drug I think Scarlett Johansson did that for one of
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her movies as well Lucy or something like that and Angela Jolie did it for salt I don't know it's it's kind of a
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boring premise I'd rather he was just a mutant I rather he was just a mutant if that makes sense then just a human with
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a chemical that will run out or maybe not run out but that's why I never saw I never appealed to me but his character
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starts the movie is some was underachieved his entire life getting these new abilities sort of it's
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an important part of the sort of overall character arc okay I've ever ly remember the commercials
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for this but I never took the time out to go see it all right because I didn't care all right yeah I think Doug and I
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are on the same page spectacle there number six analyze this this opened at
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18 million dinero got a Golden Globe nomination that was that kind of play on his mafia persona that he has in movies
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this is pre Sopranos it was and that was the big thing about when The Sopranos came out I was like wait this is analyze
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this if so for listeners who don't know the Sopranos or the analyze this concept he's he's a tough guy mob guy who's
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getting therapy and therapy as you know is a is a sign of weakness for men especially a mob guy to have so that's
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the play on this I presume hmm love this movie I absolutely adore this movie
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every time it's on I watch it what a gem you know directed by Harold Ramis and Billy Crystal's great knit yeah and
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DeNiro to see him sort of parody that character he had played in like Goodfellas and Casino it was really funny I said
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earlier to that I don't like so much De Niro's tries a comedy this is one of the
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exceptions I thought him and Billy Crystal really bounced off each other well in this film I thought it was
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entertaining I thought it was funny even though I liked more of a Billy Crystal movie and you focus more on his comedy
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than De Niro's but again you know piggyback off what you said Craig seeing him kind of goof at the characters the
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type of character that he's so known for was like a refreshing change agreed well said both of you I agree I
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enjoyed it too watched and enjoyed it I don't know if I saw the sequel though don't silver linings playbook De Niro
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teamed with Cooper for 2012 silver linings playbook playing the father to
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Bradley Cooper his mentally ill son Jacki Weaver started the Nero's wife in the film all Jennifer Lawrence won an
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Academy Award for her portrayal of Cooper's love interest the film became a critical and commercial darling
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premiering at the Toronto International Film Festival and going on to win a slew of awards but our man DeNiro here was
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nominated in the support the category for both the Academy Awards and the Screen Actors Guild Awards I
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really enjoy this movie based on a book sadly I have a podcast that I've neglected called big screen book club
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where every episode we look at a book and then a movie that was based on that book and I think the last episode me and
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my brother broke down the silver linings playbook yes you did so I'm kind of partial to this one I
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really enjoy it I think it's a slice of Philadelphia life which is kind of cool too yeah this was a one time viewing for
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me I thought it was a fine film I have nothing you know negative to say about it just not memorable enough two more in
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a second watching it's directed by a director that I do enjoy I just never saw in this David O'Russell I've enjoyed
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some of this great one of my favorite movies of all time I Heart Huckabees yes so the next film is the animated film
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called shark tail this is where De Niro tried his hand or voice at the
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kid-friendly fair the DreamWorks film 2004 De Niro voiced the crime lord great
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white shark and it also had Will Smith Angelina Jolie Martin Scorsese did the
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voice acting Jack Black was in it Renee Zellweger so this movie was a big hit too by the way this was a time 2004 when
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DreamWorks Animation films where you could release anything that was animated to some degree and it made money in the
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box office and Shark Tale did prove that by making money doing well at the box
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office I couldn't believe that this grossed that much money yeah I mean even
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in the DreamWorks catalog this has to be among the bottom you know when you got things like Shrek it was a
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budget of 75 million and it grossed 368 million dollars Wow Wow
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I have kids and I never saw this movie yeah it's crazy hey who wants to handle the last film algae there the last entry
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is the trio of films that were started with meet the parents so we have meet their parents Meet the Fockers and then
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Little Fockers did it reestablish De Niro kind of the first one certainly did
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and the reason why I've kind of put these all together I hope this isn't anyone's worst pick is this because this
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really just one big story we can for poops and giggles pick the worst of the three by little [ __ ] yeah okay well
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they yeah I agree as is often the case in most trilogies the third one was the worst one meet the parents was a great
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movie I love that movie De Niro played a great job of kind of playing that tough guys father-in-law to
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be again he's playing to his screen persona of being a tough guy which I think benefited him yes playing a
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straight man to Ben Stiller's goofy guy I think really benefited the narrowness the sequel Meet the Fockers it was funny
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enough cuz it played on the word Fockers of course cuz that was the big punchline in the in the first film Barbra
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Streisand and Dustin Hoffman they were great it was fun to see Dustin Hoffman play a fun character again he's so
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little you really get a feeling for how small he is in that movie that's fair that
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move is huge part the sequel of five hundred million I actually prefer that to meet the
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parents meet the parents for me it's a funny movie but there's a point in that
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movie where you just start to feel bad for the Ben Stiller character and so almost you're watching a snuff film or
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something where it's just how much worse can it get for this guy and yeah that's
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good I kind of feel like Meet the Fockers kind of tempered that a little bit where he still has a bad time it's
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not as cruel Jing yeah and Barbra Streisand and Dustin Hoffman were great
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additions to that cinematic universe
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this barely touches how many films De Niro has been in of course as is the case with our podcast the worst of the
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best we we don't pick the best I mean these are the top grossing kind of the biggest box office draws that De Niro
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has been in in one way shape form or another but he has been in tons of movies he just got his Wikipedia page he
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has enough of a career where you would have a healthy healthy healthy podcast reviewing his film so you could do it
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for years so this is just glancing they're glossing over his career and over the best of his box office so I'll
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pick my worst from his top grossing films of all time and the criteria that I picked as of all
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the films and put them all in front of me and I had to watch them all over again which would I really say no to one film and
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that would be Shark Tale I'm not a fan of these animation films I'm really not and especially not a fan of animal
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movies I've never really enjoyed animals as talking characters and fish talking
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and underwater world is just it wasn't very funny and it's kind of boring Robert De Niro's voice acting is
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unnecessary in this kind of film it doesn't add to the film it's kind of a cop-out picking the animation film as
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the worst pick if I had to pick a second pick that was not an animation film if I
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had to pick a second pick of where it's not animation felt is kind of a cop-out the good shepherd is kind of a boring
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film it's not a fun CIA film all right yeah based on just the ones that I've
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seen I would go hands down with the score I expected so much more from that film based on who was in it and the
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subject matter you know heist a couple of professional thieves I thought every
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word nor his cover was he was some special ed janitor guy that's how he was
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able to get inside and his portrayal of somebody with special needs was was offensive and just terrible it was awful
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and unnecessary dinero's dear a legendary actor man you got handcuffed in that movie not a good movie have you
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seen The Good Shepherd and never saw The Good Shepherd I might explain that choice okay go ahead yes
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using Ryan's criteria I'm gonna have to go with New Year's Eve our [ __ ] gimmick
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film it was a movie made by a committee so that's my pick if I had to go with a second I would probably go with with
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hide and seek just because it your generic thriller didn't need to narrow
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all right well that's awesome guys Ryan a little bit long but not in a bad way yeah I think a twenty minutes of it was technical difficulties oh no consensus -
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so that's interesting it'll be interesting to see what the listeners think yeah Welles combination of like that was saying there might have been
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some films we haven't seen that are probably worse than the ones we've picked but that's the criteria so that's
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awesome stuff guys it was a lot of fun having you on the show I hope to have you on again wink wink
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yeah until until next time thanks for filling in you guys and all the best - Robert De Niro and his future films I'm
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sure he's got a couple more on his pocket before he passes on from this mortal coil thanks for having us man
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this was a lot of fun yeah totally it was as always it's an honor and a pleasure thanks guys thanks
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again they remember in front of every silver lining there's a cloud and we're here to help you find it
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